I was talking about vacation auto-reply messages missing the return path

On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 12:41 AM, Timo Sirainen <tss@iki.fi> wrote:

On Wed, 2008-12-10 at 14:09 +1100, Stephen Vaughan wrote:

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I can see this has been discussed previously, was just wondering if it's been fixed in v1.1.x?

I don't consider it a bug. Rejection messages shouldn't have a return path, otherwise they themselves may be rejected and soon you'll have a bounce loop.

-- Best Regards, Stephen

The vacation auto reply is being rejected by spamassassin, for bad_MIME

On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 3:17 AM, Timo Sirainen <tss@iki.fi> wrote:

Pretty much the same thing, just replace "rejection" with "vacation" in my reply. Why do you want them to have the return path?

On Sun, 2008-12-14 at 03:15 +1100, Stephen Vaughan wrote:

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I was talking about vacation auto-reply messages missing the return path

On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 12:41 AM, Timo Sirainen <tss@iki.fi> wrote: On Wed, 2008-12-10 at 14:09 +1100, Stephen Vaughan wrote: > I can see this has been discussed previously, was just wondering if it's > been fixed in v1.1.x?

    I don't consider it a bug. Rejection messages shouldn't have a
    return
    path, otherwise they themselves may be rejected and soon
    you'll have a
    bounce loop.

-- Best Regards, Stephen

-- Best Regards, Stephen

Hello,

Is this ever likely to be fixed in dovecot?

It was mentioned in a previous thread before: http://dovecot.org/list/dovecot/2008-December/035753.html

Basically the vacation system is useless, most mail servers with anti-spam are rejecting the vacation replies because the sender isn't a valid address.

This is the address that the auto replies are coming from:

<<>@domain1.com>

Stephen

On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 2:21 AM, Timo Sirainen <tss@iki.fi> wrote:

Are you sure it's because of a missing return path? Sounds more like the message MIME body is broken. I've never checked if it is..

On Sun, 2008-12-14 at 03:19 +1100, Stephen Vaughan wrote:

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The vacation auto reply is being rejected by spamassassin, for bad_MIME

On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 3:17 AM, Timo Sirainen <tss@iki.fi> wrote: Pretty much the same thing, just replace "rejection" with "vacation" in my reply. Why do you want them to have the return path?

    On Sun, 2008-12-14 at 03:15 +1100, Stephen Vaughan wrote:
    > I was talking about vacation auto-reply messages missing the
    return
    > path
    >
    > On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 12:41 AM, Timo Sirainen <tss@iki.fi>
    wrote:
    >         On Wed, 2008-12-10 at 14:09 +1100, Stephen Vaughan
    wrote:
    >         > I can see this has been discussed previously, was
    just
    >         wondering if it's
    >         > been fixed in v1.1.x?
    >
    >
    >         I don't consider it a bug. Rejection messages
    shouldn't have a
    >         return
    >         path, otherwise they themselves may be rejected and
    soon
    >         you'll have a
    >         bounce loop.
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > --
    > Best Regards,
    > Stephen

-- Best Regards, Stephen

-- Best Regards, Stephen Sent from Sydney, Nsw, Australia

Does the fix apply to dovecot 1.1 only? We are running 1.0, should we be upgrading to 1.2?

On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 4:03 PM, Timo Sirainen <tss@iki.fi> wrote:

On Jul 30, 2009, at 1:59 AM, Stephen Vaughan wrote:

Is this ever likely to be fixed in dovecot?

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<<>@domain1.com>

Stephen

On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 2:21 AM, Timo Sirainen <tss@iki.fi> wrote:

Yeah, it was fixed a week after my mail: http://hg.dovecot.org/dovecot-sieve-1.1/rev/49537bad6797

-- Best Regards, Stephen

I might be confused also, I haven't been able to receive an automated vacation reply yet.. both gmail and my mail servers block mail from the auto reply. This is what shows up in the mail logs on one my servers:

Jul 30 01:00:48 asura qmail-scanner-queue.pl: qmail-scanner[32365]: Policy:Bad_MIME:RC:0(202.47.4.134):SA:0(-2.6/5.0): 4.856249 790 <>@ mail.domain.com.au admin@domain.com Out_of_office_ <dovecot-1248932550-403189-0@max>_ 1248933643.32367-0.asura.domain.com:14orig-asura.domain.com124893364378632365:790

So maybe it isn't the return-path, but it doesn't seem to like the fact that the user is <>

On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 7:29 PM, Charles Marcus <CMarcus@media-brokers.com>wrote:

On 7/30/2009, Stephen Vaughan (stephenvaughan@gmail.com) wrote:

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Does the fix apply to dovecot 1.1 only? We are running 1.0, should we be upgrading to 1.2?

1.0 is old... so yes, you should upgrade... lots more reasons than this one bugfix, for sure...

But... I'm confused about the bug...

The mail clients displayed 'From' address was the problem, right? Thats what was fixed... the 'return-path', which is what you were originally complaining about, is still <>, as it should be for vacation messages.

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Best regards,

Charles

-- Best Regards, Stephen Sent from Sydney, Nsw, Australia