[Dovecot] kernel problem in RedHat? -- RH specific, or what linux kernels does this affect?

Stan Hoeppner stan at hardwarefreak.com
Sat Mar 24 12:06:25 EET 2012


On 3/24/2012 1:16 AM, Linda Walsh wrote:
> Is this redhat's version of the kernel only?  Or does it apply to other
> linux kernels and other distros?
> 
> Any idea what linux kernel versions might cause this?
> 
> (from main dovecot webpage news)
> 
>  Thu Mar 22 14:38:53 EET 2012
> 
> Red Hat/CentOS users: A recent kernel update
> <https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=681578> causes Dovecot to
> start failing after it has reached 1000 child processes. To fix this,
> downgrade your kernel until Red Hat releases a fixed kernel.

It appears to be a Red Hat centric regression.  They added a patch to
fix one thing and broke other things, Dovecot, in the process, because
the Red Hat programmer made an incorrect assumption about what real
world applications were doing, apparently without investigating such
first.  Note that one won't see this problem on their REHL/CentOS system
if they never hit 1000 child processes.

And as Timo states in the bug report it's *possible* Postfix could
suffer the same problem as it uses the same pipe/epoll system.  However
nobody runs 1000 Postfix smtp[d]s.  Few, if any, run over 200.  The ones
that do usually don't know how to properly tune Postfix, and they use a
high smtp[d] daemon count to compensate for suboptimal configuration
elsewhere in the system.

A properly setup Postfix server can handle 200-300 msgs/second with the
default 100 smtp[d] processes.  1000 smtp[d]s would suggest a message
rate 10x that, or 2000-3000 msgs/second.  The server plus disk subsystem
required to queue that kind of message rate would be impressive, and
expensive, for a mail server.  This same message rate can typically be
achieved by a much less expensive scale out farm.

If anyone on the planet is running a properly tuned 1000 process Postfix
server, I'd love to read about it.

-- 
Stan



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