[Dovecot] dnsbl feature for dovecot
professa at dementianati.com
Wed Jul 3 13:47:52 EEST 2013
On 7/3/2013 12:35 AM, John Fawcett wrote:
> The point is to stop spambot connections to pop and
> imap (which are usually done to try and steal
This is not the usual way spambots work. Generally, spambots scrape
addresses from various sources in order to get lists of emails to send
What you seem to be experiencing may be zombie nets trying to brute
force credentials so they can then send spam from compromised accounts.
This is a different beast with a different solution.
Regardless, you have a spcific problem that needs addressing.
I ran an ISP for almost two decades and have dealt with these issues
myself. My recommendations:
1) Enforce strong user passwords. I use 12 characters minimum. 14
characters or more would be better, but this length starts to make it
hard for mere humans to remember. Enforce a rule that the password
contains at least 2 or 3 of the following: lower case letter, upper case
letter, digit, and symbol which is not one of the prior three.
Some systems require the user's password have all four. This actually
weakens the password (if you care to know why, I can go into the math in
a later post).
After enforcing your chosen rules, run the password through cracklib
before accepting it from the user. Or even better, what I started doing
was having the system generate passwords and not let the user choose
their own. Initially people grumbled a bit, but they soon got used to
it and security was much better.
2) Fail2Ban with rules that seem like they are pretty weak, but trust
me, they work fine and you limit complaints from users.
a) If you get 3 invalid login attempts within a minute from more than
1 IP address, block that login for 10 minutes. If you have blocked a
login and another attempt to log in to that account is made then tarpit
that connection. Usually 60 seconds is sufficient. Do not extend the
original block time past the original 10 minutes.
b) If you get 5 invalid login attempts within a minute from the same
IP, block that IP for 5 minutes. This is usually a valid user who
forgot their password, as opposed to a) which is usually a malicious
Some of this you can do with off the shelf tools, some of it may require
some glue code (Perl or Python works nicely) on your part. If you can
implement this, it will stop the abuse cold.
1) provides security and makes brute forcing infeasible. 2) helps
reduce load on your systems.
> I was imagining a distributed solution which is already
> in use in many mtas applied also to imap and pop
> so that connections could be stopped from the first
> I am assuming that if there is such a feature then data is
> available (e.g. sorbs) or if not yet being collected that it
> could be done.
I feel your pain and frustration. I do not believe there is an RBL list
of offending IP's for brute force attacks and I think one would be hard
to build and keep up to date enough to be useful, since most of these
systems are compromised home computers, but they get fixed and there is
a lot of turnover - infected systems are repaired and new ones infected.
Most of them are in the far east, so if you do not mind applying a
cudgel to the problem, you can block entire ranges of IPs altogether.
Of course, one of your users traveling to one of those areas would need
to use some other method to access email (mobile device, webmail, etc).
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