If local Dovecot stops working, check lo

[Jiri Bourek]

On 15.7.2014 11:13, Nick Edwards wrote:
> On 7/14/14, Jiri Bourek <bourek at thinline.cz> wrote:
>> On 14.7.2014 00:24, Nick Edwards wrote:
>>> On 7/12/14, Steve Litt <slitt at troubleshooters.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> experience with Debian Wheezy is that lo "goes down" a lot, so this is
>>>> one of the first things I do when odd stuff happens.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Use a better operating system then
>>
>> Blaming operating system after *one* person reports something strange
>> about it seems a bit overboard, doesn't it...?
>>
> debian has a long history of being clueless:
> old packages in new releases, untested packages in releases
> (mailscanner did not, and was never going to, work out of thebox in a
> recent release)

As most Linux distributions, Debian is a collective work done mostly by 
volunteers. If you want newer versions and tested packages, feel free to 
help them.

And honestly, the situation about untested and old packages isn't as 
grim as you're trying to say.

>
> debian has history of thinking it knows better than upstream:
> openssl screwup they told debian was wrong but debian released it
> anyway causing grief for not only debian systems but all systems
> including windows that used certs generated on a debi\an server.

AFAIK it was actually the other way around. Debian maintainers asked on 
openssl-dev list if their change is ok and were told that it is.

>
> and dont get me started on debians release/ftp manager and the
> personal biases there either, shall I go? I can but it would be a bore
> for most.
>

As far as I am concerned, there's no need to be more OT than we are now.

Also please stop sending me personal messages, I am on the list.