[EXTERNAL] Sv: function for whitelisting IPs

White, Daniel E. (GSFC-770.0)[NICS] daniel.e.white at nasa.gov
Thu Jul 15 14:05:22 EEST 2021


The custom login script -- in Dovecot or Roundcube or … ?
Is there any documentation for such scripting ?

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From: dovecot <dovecot-bounces at dovecot.org> on behalf of Sebastian <sebastian at sebbe.eu>
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Date: Thursday, July 15, 2021 at 06:56
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Subject: [EXTERNAL] Sv: function for whitelisting IPs

    Most such functions would need to be custom.
    You need to write a custom login script, which also accepts the user's IP as input to a function, which then checks if password is right.
    And then it returns that password is invalid if IP isn't approved.

    Then you just need to write some custom functions in roundcube or similiar to have the webmail insert the IP into a database.

    Or just match it against a GeoIP database and save the latest country the webmail was logged in from, and then SMTP/IMAP is only approved for that country.
    That reduces the attack surface greatly.

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    Från: dovecot-bounces at dovecot.org <dovecot-bounces at dovecot.org> För White, Daniel E. (GSFC-770.0)[NICS]
    Skickat: den 15 juli 2021 12:21
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    Ämne: function for whitelisting IPs

    Sebastian,

    Do you have any examples of such a function and how/where it is used ?

    -----Original Message-----
    From: dovecot <dovecot-bounces at dovecot.org> on behalf of Sebastian <sebastian at sebbe.eu>
    Reply-To: Dovecot Mailing List <dovecot at dovecot.org>
    Date: Thursday, July 15, 2021 at 01:19
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    Subject: [EXTERNAL] Sv: 2FA/MFA with IMAP & postfix/submission

        Main problem is that not many clients do natively support multifactor.
        Some clients, do popup a login dialog if the server rejects the password as invalid, which can be used to create a "cheaty variant" of multifactor, but some clients just popup an error dialog and tell the user to just correct password in settings.
        Some clients even go as long as requiring the user to delete the account with wrong password and set up a new connection.

        So no, it cannot be relied upon.

        I have a better idea:
        Have a function for whitelisting IPs, possible /24's or similiar, where a login to roundcube or other webmail client (with 2FA) will add the IP onto a whitelist for that account.
        Or perhaps, just "set" the country of the account based on GeoIP.

        When an account tries to login via IMAP or SMTP, you just check if IP and/or GeoIP country is right, and reject the login as invalid if so not.

        The only thing a client needs to do to get his IMAP or SMTP client to work again if it stops working, is to login once via the web client.

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        Från: dovecot-bounces at dovecot.org <dovecot-bounces at dovecot.org> För Alex
        Skickat: den 15 juli 2021 02:10
        Till: dovecot at dovecot.org
        Ämne: 2FA/MFA with IMAP & postfix/submission

        Hi, I have a dovecot-2.3.13 system on fedora34 with a few hundred
        IMAP4 accounts, as well as postfix users using submission. Clients are
        using primarily Outlook on Windows and old squirrelmail.

        Are there multi-factor options available?

        If it is not available, do you have any recommendations on where I
        should look to do this?

        All of the links related to this topic appear to be very old, or
        limited to Linux PAM users.






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