<!DOCTYPE html><html><head><title></title><style type="text/css">p.MsoNormal,p.MsoNoSpacing{margin:0}</style></head><body><div style="font-family:Arial;">On Wed, May 22, 2019, at 23:43, Tanstaafl via dovecot wrote:<br></div><blockquote type="cite" id="qt"><div style="font-family:Arial;">On Wed May 22 2019 05:44:59 GMT-0400 (Eastern Standard Time), Aki Tuomi<br></div><div style="font-family:Arial;">via dovecot <dovecot@dovecot.org> wrote:<br></div><div style="font-family:Arial;">> Unfortunately we have not been able to work on this much, but also the<br></div><div style="font-family:Arial;">> JMAP spec was until very recently still being worked. We have open<br></div><div style="font-family:Arial;">> dialogue with the Thunderbird people, they haven't so far indicated any<br></div><div style="font-family:Arial;">> pressing need for JMAP in Dovecot.<br></div><div style="font-family:Arial;">> <br></div><div style="font-family:Arial;">> This said, JMAP is still very much in our roadmap. Perhaps just not as<br></div><div style="font-family:Arial;">> close as I initially thought.<br></div></blockquote><div style="font-family:Arial;"><br></div><div style="font-family:Arial;">Obviously I'd love to help out in any way possible here! We're very keen to see JMAP support in Dovecot to encourage others to move towards it as well.<br></div><div style="font-family:Arial;"><br></div><blockquote type="cite" id="qt"><div style="font-family:Arial;">Thanks Aki - no pressing need because of the old chicken/egg problem I<br></div><div style="font-family:Arial;">guess...<br></div><div style="font-family:Arial;"><br></div><div style="font-family:Arial;">That said, a few tidbits...<br></div><div style="font-family:Arial;"><br></div><div style="font-family:Arial;">The Thunderbird Devs are using Topicbox for discussing Thunderbird UI<br></div><div style="font-family:Arial;">development, and Topicbox is built directly on top of JMAP for the email<br></div><div style="font-family:Arial;">integration (I'm not sure they even knew this until I told them yesterday):<br></div><div style="font-family:Arial;"><br></div><div style="font-family:Arial;">From: https://fastmail.blog/2018/12/27/jmap-is-on-the-home-straight/<br></div><div style="font-family:Arial;"><br></div><div style="font-family:Arial;">"But enough about the software, how about the experience! When we<br></div><div style="font-family:Arial;">created our brand new Topicbox product, we built directly on top of JMAP<br></div><div style="font-family:Arial;">for the email. We also used JMAP-inspired APIs for the rest of the<br></div><div style="font-family:Arial;">product experience, so Topicbox’s early users have been on JMAP for over<br></div><div style="font-family:Arial;">a year now."<br></div><div style="font-family:Arial;"><br></div><div style="font-family:Arial;">Lastly, Fastmail is now rolling it out - 30% of their userbase is on<br></div><div style="font-family:Arial;">JMAP, and all new users are automatically on it. Cyrus also provides<br></div><div style="font-family:Arial;">experimental JMAP support in their development snapshots.<br></div></blockquote><div style="font-family:Arial;"><br></div><div style="font-family:Arial;">Actually, 99% of our user base has been on JMAP for about 4 months now! The one remaining percent was users with the old version of our mobile apps, and they're being cut off next month.<br></div><div style="font-family:Arial;"><br></div><div style="font-family:Arial;">As for JMAP mail and JMAP core - they're currently with the RFC editor for the final round of edits - they should have assigned RFC numbers in the next few weeks I would imagine. There will be some minor editorial polish, but the way it works is entirely stable now, there won't be more changes.<br></div><div style="font-family:Arial;"><br></div><div style="font-family:Arial;"><div style="font-family:Arial;"><a href="https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-jmap-core/">https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-jmap-core/</a><br></div><div style="font-family:Arial;"><a href="https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-jmap-mail/">https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-jmap-mail/</a><br></div><div style="font-family:Arial;"><br></div></div><div style="font-family:Arial;">We're planning to have full support for everything in those specs into Cyrus IMAP version 3.2 as well. Right now there's a couple of gaps that we either don't use at FastMail or are papering around with our perl middleware. You can see the remaining tasks here as we progress:<br></div><div style="font-family:Arial;"><br></div><div style="font-family:Arial;"><a href="https://github.com/cyrusimap/cyrus-imapd/labels/3.2">https://github.com/cyrusimap/cyrus-imapd/labels/3.2</a><br></div><div style="font-family:Arial;"><br>Cheers,<br></div><div style="font-family:Arial;"><br></div><div style="font-family:Arial;">Bron.<br></div><div style="font-family:Arial;"><br></div><div style="font-family:Arial;"><br></div><div style="font-family:Arial;"><br></div><div id="sig567075"><div class="signature">-- <br></div><div class="signature"> Bron Gondwana<br></div><div class="signature"> brong@fastmail.fm<br></div><div class="signature"><br></div></div><div style="font-family:Arial;"><br></div></body></html>