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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Thanks for chiming in Bron!<br>
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      I'm very interested in JMAP as you can see, but I'm also very
      curious - do you have any blog pages dedicated to the user
      experience vs standard IMAP? How it differs - and most importantly
      if it is truly better, and if so, how and why?<br>
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      I'd also love to read about actual user experiences - how about a
      collection of comments from your users?<br>
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      Thanks again,<br>
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      Charles<br>
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      p.s. Even though I've always hosted my own, I'm very tempted to
      sign up for a paid account to see for myself.<br>
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      On Tue May 28 2019 03:49:25 GMT-0400 (Eastern Standard Time), Bron
      Gondwana via dovecot <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:dovecot@dovecot.org"><dovecot@dovecot.org></a> wrote:<br>
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      <div style="font-family:Arial;">On Wed, May 22, 2019, at 23:43,
        Tanstaafl via dovecot wrote:<br>
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        <div style="font-family:Arial;">On Wed May 22 2019 05:44:59
          GMT-0400 (Eastern Standard Time), Aki Tuomi<br>
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        <div style="font-family:Arial;">via dovecot
          <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:dovecot@dovecot.org"><dovecot@dovecot.org></a> wrote:<br>
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        <div style="font-family:Arial;">> Unfortunately we have not
          been able to work on this much, but also the<br>
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        <div style="font-family:Arial;">> JMAP spec was until very
          recently still being worked. We have open<br>
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        <div style="font-family:Arial;">> dialogue with the
          Thunderbird people, they haven't so far indicated any<br>
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        <div style="font-family:Arial;">> pressing need for JMAP in
          Dovecot.<br>
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        <div style="font-family:Arial;">> <br>
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        <div style="font-family:Arial;">> This said, JMAP is still
          very much in our roadmap. Perhaps just not as<br>
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        <div style="font-family:Arial;">> close as I initially
          thought.<br>
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      <div style="font-family:Arial;">Obviously I'd love to help out in
        any way possible here!  We're very keen to see JMAP support in
        Dovecot to encourage others to move towards it as well.<br>
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        <div style="font-family:Arial;">Thanks Aki - no pressing need
          because of the old chicken/egg problem I<br>
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        <div style="font-family:Arial;">guess...<br>
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        <div style="font-family:Arial;">That said, a few tidbits...<br>
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        <div style="font-family:Arial;">The Thunderbird Devs are using
          Topicbox for discussing Thunderbird UI<br>
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        <div style="font-family:Arial;">development, and Topicbox is
          built directly on top of JMAP for the email<br>
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        <div style="font-family:Arial;">integration (I'm not sure they
          even knew this until I told them yesterday):<br>
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        <div style="font-family:Arial;">From:
          <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://fastmail.blog/2018/12/27/jmap-is-on-the-home-straight/">https://fastmail.blog/2018/12/27/jmap-is-on-the-home-straight/</a><br>
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        <div style="font-family:Arial;">"But enough about the software,
          how about the experience! When we<br>
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        <div style="font-family:Arial;">created our brand new Topicbox
          product, we built directly on top of JMAP<br>
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        <div style="font-family:Arial;">for the email. We also used
          JMAP-inspired APIs for the rest of the<br>
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        <div style="font-family:Arial;">product experience, so
          Topicbox’s early users have been on JMAP for over<br>
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        <div style="font-family:Arial;">a year now."<br>
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        <div style="font-family:Arial;"><br>
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        <div style="font-family:Arial;">Lastly, Fastmail is now rolling
          it out - 30% of their userbase is on<br>
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        <div style="font-family:Arial;">JMAP, and all new users are
          automatically on it. Cyrus also provides<br>
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        <div style="font-family:Arial;">experimental JMAP support in
          their development snapshots.<br>
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      <div style="font-family:Arial;">Actually, 99% of our user base has
        been on JMAP for about 4 months now!  The one remaining percent
        was users with the old version of our mobile apps, and they're
        being cut off next month.<br>
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      <div style="font-family:Arial;">As for JMAP mail and JMAP core -
        they're currently with the RFC editor for the final round of
        edits - they should have assigned RFC numbers in the next few
        weeks I would imagine.  There will be some minor editorial
        polish, but the way it works is entirely stable now, there won't
        be more changes.<br>
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        <div style="font-family:Arial;"><a
            href="https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-jmap-core/"
            moz-do-not-send="true">https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-jmap-core/</a><br>
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        <div style="font-family:Arial;"><a
            href="https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-jmap-mail/"
            moz-do-not-send="true">https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-jmap-mail/</a><br>
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      <div style="font-family:Arial;">We're planning to have full
        support for everything in those specs into Cyrus IMAP version
        3.2 as well.  Right now there's a couple of gaps that we either
        don't use at FastMail or are papering around with our perl
        middleware.  You can see the remaining tasks here as we
        progress:<br>
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      <div style="font-family:Arial;"><a
          href="https://github.com/cyrusimap/cyrus-imapd/labels/3.2"
          moz-do-not-send="true">https://github.com/cyrusimap/cyrus-imapd/labels/3.2</a><br>
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        Cheers,<br>
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      <div style="font-family:Arial;">Bron.<br>
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        <div class="signature">  Bron Gondwana<br>
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