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    <p>Still haven't heard back on why 4190 isn't being listened to. I
      put the entire /etc/dovecot/conf.d directory into
      <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.newideatest.site/dovecot">https://www.newideatest.site/dovecot</a>, so feel free to look at the
      configs and see if you can figure out why the sieve listener isn't
      running.<br>
    </p>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 5/1/2021 1:14 AM, Dan Egli wrote:<br>
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      <p>So I see. THAT part is fixed. But now when I restart dovecot,
        NOTHING is listening on 4190. So how to I tell dovecot to listen
        on 4190 with the sieve daemon?<br>
      </p>
      <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 5/1/2021 12:53 AM, <a
          class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
          href="mailto:dovecot@steve.wattlink.net"
          moz-do-not-send="true">dovecot@steve.wattlink.net</a> wrote:<br>
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          <p class="MsoNormal">Exactly as I suspected:<o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal">> service lmtp {<br>
            >   inet_listener lmtp {<br>
            >     address = 127.0.0.1<br>
            >     port = 4190<br>
            >   }<br>
            > }<br>
            <br>
            <o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal">As for why it looks that way?  Dunno. 
            Check conf.d/20-lmtp.conf.  That doesn’t make sense.<o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span
                style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Lucida
                Console",serif">-- <o:p></o:p></span></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span
                style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Lucida
                Console",serif">Steve Watt   KD6GGD    
                PP-ASEL-IA   factories.words.yappy<o:p></o:p></span></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span
                style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Lucida
                Console",serif">Don't let your schooling get in the
                way of your education.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Dan Egli <a
                  class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
                  href="mailto:dan@newideatest.site"
                  moz-do-not-send="true"><dan@newideatest.site></a>
                <br>
                <b>Sent:</b> Friday, April 30, 2021 23:50<br>
                <b>To:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
                  href="mailto:steve@watt.com" moz-do-not-send="true">steve@watt.com</a>;
                <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
                  href="mailto:dovecot@dovecot.org"
                  moz-do-not-send="true">dovecot@dovecot.org</a><br>
                <b>Subject:</b> Re: Sieve daemon errors? (Part 1 of 2,
                Pt 2 to follow when Pt 1 resolved)<o:p></o:p></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
          <p>Ask and ye shall receive:  # dovecot -n<br>
            # 2.3.13 (89f716dc2): /etc/dovecot/dovecot.conf<br>
            # Pigeonhole version 0.5.13 (cdd19fe3)<br>
            # OS: Linux 5.11.16-gentoo-x86_64 x86_64 Gentoo Base System
            release 2.7 xfs<br>
            # Hostname: jupiter.newideatest.site<br>
            auth_debug = yes<br>
            auth_mechanisms = plain login<br>
            auth_socket_path = /run/dovecot/auth-userdb<br>
            auth_verbose = yes<br>
            debug_log_path = /var/log/dovecot/debug.log<br>
            default_vsz_limit = 1 G<br>
            disable_plaintext_auth = no<br>
            first_valid_uid = 114<br>
            hostname = jupiter.newideatest.site<br>
            info_log_path = /var/log/dovecot/info.log<br>
            log_path = /var/log/dovecot/error.log<br>
            mail_debug = yes<br>
            mail_gid = exim4u<br>
            mail_location =
maildir:/var/mail/%d/%n/Maildir:INDEX=/var/mail/indexes/%d/%1n/%                                                                                                                                                            
            n<br>
            mail_plugins = fts<br>
            mail_privileged_group = mail<br>
            mail_server_admin = <redacted><br>
            mail_uid = exim4u<br>
            managesieve_notify_capability = mailto<br>
            managesieve_sieve_capability = fileinto reject envelope
            encoded-character
vacati                                                                                                                                                            
            on subaddress comparator-i;ascii-numeric relational regex
            imap4flags copy
includ                                                                                                                                                            
            e variables body enotify environment mailbox date index
            ihave duplicate mime
for                                                                                                                                                            
            everypart extracttext imapsieve vnd.dovecot.imapsieve<br>
            namespace inbox {<br>
              inbox = yes<br>
              location =<br>
              mailbox Drafts {<br>
                special_use = \Drafts<br>
              }<br>
              mailbox Junk {<br>
                special_use = \Junk<br>
              }<br>
              mailbox Sent {<br>
                special_use = \Sent<br>
              }<br>
              mailbox "Sent Messages" {<br>
                special_use = \Sent<br>
              }<br>
              mailbox Trash {<br>
                special_use = \Trash<br>
              }<br>
              prefix =<br>
            }<br>
            passdb {<br>
              args = /etc/dovecot/dovecot-sql.conf.ext<br>
              driver = sql<br>
            }<br>
            passdb {<br>
              args = /etc/dovecot/dovecot-ldap.conf.ext<br>
              driver = ldap<br>
            }<br>
            plugin {<br>
              fts_autoindex = yes<br>
              fts_autoindex_exclude = \Junk<br>
              fts_autoindex_exclude2 = \Trash<br>
              fts_autoindex_exclude3 = \Drafts<br>
              fts_autoindex_exclude4 = \Spam<br>
              fts_enforced = yes<br>
              imapsieve_mailbox1_before = <a
              href="file://var/lib/dovecot/sieve/report-spam.sieve"
              moz-do-not-send="true">file:/var/lib/dovecot/sieve/report-spam.sieve</a><br>
              imapsieve_mailbox1_causes = COPY<br>
              imapsieve_mailbox1_name = Spam<br>
              imapsieve_mailbox2_before = <a
              href="file://var/lib/dovecot/sieve/report-ham.sieve"
              moz-do-not-send="true">file:/var/lib/dovecot/sieve/report-ham.sieve</a><br>
              imapsieve_mailbox2_causes = COPY<br>
              imapsieve_mailbox2_from = Spam<br>
              imapsieve_mailbox2_name = *<br>
              plugin = fts managesieve sieve<br>
              sieve = <a
              href="file://%25h/sieve;active=%25h/.dovecot.sieve"
              moz-do-not-send="true">file:%h/sieve;active=%h/.dovecot.sieve</a><br>
              sieve_Dir = ~/sieve<br>
              sieve_execute_bin_dir = /usr/lib/dovecot/sieve-execute<br>
              sieve_filter_bin_dir = /usr/lib/dovecot/sieve-filter<br>
              sieve_global_dir = /var/lib/dovecot/sieve/<br>
              sieve_global_extensions = +vnd.dovecot.pipe
            +vnd.dovecot.environment<br>
              sieve_global_path = /var/lib/dovecot/sieve/default.sieve<br>
              sieve_pipe_bin_dir = /var/lib/dovecot/sieve<br>
              sieve_plugins = sieve_imapsieve sieve_extprograms<br>
            }<br>
            postmaster_address = <a
              href="mailto:postmaster@newideatest.site"
              moz-do-not-send="true">postmaster@newideatest.site</a><br>
            service auth {<br>
              unix_listener auth-client {<br>
                mode = 0600<br>
                user = exim4u<br>
              }<br>
              unix_listener auth-userdb {<br>
                group = exim4u<br>
                mode = 0777<br>
                user = exim4u<br>
              }<br>
            }<br>
            service lmtp {<br>
              inet_listener lmtp {<br>
                address = 127.0.0.1<br>
                port = 4190<br>
              }<br>
            }<br>
            service managesieve-login {<br>
              inet_listener sieve {<br>
                port = 4190<br>
              }<br>
              process_min_avail = 0<br>
              service_count = 1<br>
              vsz_limit = 64 M<br>
            }<br>
            service managesieve {<br>
              process_limit = 1024<br>
            }<br>
            service stats {<br>
              unix_listener stats-reader {<br>
                mode = 0777<br>
                user = exim4u<br>
              }<br>
              unix_listener stats-writer {<br>
                mode = 0777<br>
                user = exim4u<br>
              }<br>
            }<br>
            service submission-login {<br>
              inet_listener submission {<br>
                port = 2587<br>
              }<br>
            }<br>
            ssl_cert =
            </etc/letsencrypt/live/newideatest.site/fullchain.pem<br>
            ssl_client_ca_dir = /etc/pki/tls/exim_tls/<br>
            ssl_dh = # hidden, use -P to show it<br>
            ssl_key = # hidden, use -P to show it<br>
            userdb {<br>
              args = /etc/dovecot/dovecot-sql.conf.ext<br>
              driver = sql<br>
            }<br>
            userdb {<br>
              args = uid=exim4u gid=exim4u home=/var/mail/%Ld/%Ln<br>
              driver = static<br>
            }<br>
            verbose_ssl = yes<br>
            protocol lmtp {<br>
              info_log_path = /var/log/dovecot/lmtp.log<br>
              log_path = /var/log/dovecot/lmtp-errors.log<br>
              mail_plugins = fts sieve sieve<br>
              postmaster_address = <a
              href="mailto:postmaster@newideatest.site"
              moz-do-not-send="true">postmaster@newideatest.site</a><br>
            }<br>
            protocol lda {<br>
              info_log_path = /var/log/dovecot/lda.log<br>
              log_path = /var/log/dovecot/lda-errors.log<br>
              mail_plugins = fts sieve sieve<br>
            }<br>
            protocol imap {<br>
              mail_plugins = fts imap_sieve<br>
            }<br>
            protocol sieve {<br>
              info_log_path = /var/log/dovecot/sieve.log<br>
              log_path = /var/log/dovecot/sieve-errors.log<br>
              managesieve_implementation_string = Dovecot<br>
              managesieve_max_compile_errors = 5<br>
              managesieve_max_line_length = 64 k<br>
            }<br>
            j<o:p></o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal">On 5/1/2021 12:44 AM, Steve Watt wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal">From a little bit of poking around in
              the source, I wonder if you somehow have the LMTP listener
              running on the sieve port.<o:p></o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal">The output of doveconf -n will help
              more than just the 90-sieve.conf.  Also check the dovecot
              log; I found it helpful (once I figured out how to
              configure it) with debugging.<o:p></o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal">[ Apologies for top post; brain-damaged
              MUA in use. ]<o:p></o:p></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span
                  style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Lucida
                  Console ,serif",serif">-- </span><o:p></o:p></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span
                  style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Lucida
                  Console ,serif",serif">Steve Watt   KD6GGD    
                  PP-ASEL-IA   factories.words.yappy</span><o:p></o:p></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span
                  style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Lucida
                  Console ,serif",serif">Don't let your schooling
                  get in the way of your education.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> dovecot <a
                    href="mailto:dovecot-bounces@dovecot.org"
                    moz-do-not-send="true"><dovecot-bounces@dovecot.org></a>
                  <b>On Behalf Of </b>Dan Egli<br>
                  <b>Sent:</b> Friday, April 30, 2021 23:13<br>
                  <b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:dovecot@dovecot.org"
                    moz-do-not-send="true">dovecot@dovecot.org</a><br>
                  <b>Subject:</b> Sieve daemon errors? (Part 1 of 2, Pt
                  2 to follow when Pt 1 resolved)<o:p></o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
            <p>Folks, I am still trying to get help here. Let me
              re-state what is going on. I have a webmail program (SOGo)
              that connects to the Dovecot sieve system to handle things
              like mail filters and what not. That way dovecot's lda
              program can move things where they belong. So I went
              through the config files, and found the places where I
              need to enable sieve (this is in Gentoo Linux, by the
              way).  Now, when dovecot starts I do see a listener on 
the
              sieve port on localhost:<o:p></o:p></p>
            <p>#netstat -tl | grep sieve<br>
              tcp        0      0 localhost:sieve        
              0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN<o:p></o:p></p>
            <p>And when I telnet to the port, it does connect. But it
              doesn't say much.<o:p></o:p></p>
            <p> telnet localhost sieve<br>
              Trying 127.0.0.1...<br>
              Connected to localhost.<br>
              Escape character is '^]'.<br>
              220 jupiter.newideatest.site Dovecot ready.<o:p></o:p></p>
            <p> <o:p></o:p></p>
            <p>Yet every example I see online is showing a HECK of a lot
              more than this. So what's up? Anyone got any idea what I
              did wrong? I've put the 90-sieve.conf file on my web
              server at <a
                href="http://www.newideatest.site/90-sieve.conf"
                moz-do-not-send="true">www.newideatest.site/90-sieve.conf</a>
              for those who want to see it. If any other config files
              are wanted/needed to help figure this out, let me know
              what they are and I'll take care of it.  Here's an example
              of what other websites I've looked at say I SHOULD see:<o:p></o:p></p>
            <pre>Trying 162.243.12.140...<o:p></o:p></pre>
            <pre>Connected to test3.rtcamp.com.<o:p></o:p></pre>
            <pre>Escape character is '^]'.<o:p></o:p></pre>
            <pre><strong><span style="font-family:"Courier New"">"IMPLEMENTATION" "Dovecot Pigeonhole"</span></strong><o:p></o:p></pre>
            <pre><strong><span style="font-family:"Courier New"">"SIEVE" "fileinto reject envelope encoded-character vacation subaddress 
comparator-i;ascii-numeric relational regex imap4flags copy include variables body enotify environment mailbox date ihave"</span></strong><o:p></o:p></pre>
            <pre>"NOTIFY" "mailto"<o:p></o:p></pre>
            <pre>"SASL" "PLAIN LOGIN"<o:p></o:p></pre>
            <pre>"STARTTLS"<o:p></o:p></pre>
            <pre>"VERSION" "1.0"<o:p></o:p></pre>
            <pre>OK "Dovecot ready."<o:p></o:p></pre>
            <pre> <o:p></o:p></pre>
            <pre>so why am I not getting all this?<o:p></o:p></pre>
            <pre>-- <o:p></o:p></pre>
            <pre>Dan Egli<o:p></o:p></pre>
            <pre>From my Test Server<o:p></o:p></pre>
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          <pre>-- <o:p></o:p></pre>
          <pre>Dan Egli<o:p></o:p></pre>
          <pre>From my Test Server<o:p></o:p></pre>
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Dan Egli
From my Test Server</pre>
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    <pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">-- 
Dan Egli
From my Test Server</pre>
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