[Dovecot] Bah! Outlook

Jason Wohlford jason at wohlford.org
Fri Apr 18 02:15:25 EEST 2008

On Apr 15, 2008, at 6:28 AM, Robert Schetterer wrote:

> Hi Jason, forget about workarounds for outlook express
> its a broken client for several reasons, just advice not not use it.
> Outlook isnt Outlook , div versions with div patchlevel
> working in different ways and have different ways
> ( or no ways ) to solve your Problem
> here ist good advice for imap purge
> http://www.landaenterprises.com/support/email_imap_delete.asp
> note purge in this case ist a function
> of the client which the user may handle as he likes

Yeah, that's what I'm trying to work around.

> if you want outlook move sent mails to a imap sent folder
> use a filter rule
> look here for advice
> http://kb.nitix.com/1630

I thought those were already being handled correctly. Looks like I've  
got to look into that too.

> at last tell your users that outlook isnt a universal mail client
> specially with imap and smtp

I know that. You know that, but my clients are certainly not going to  
accept that as an answer. They'll simply go elsewhere.

> Outlook is the client of m$ case in first case
> and fits to exchanges needs,
> and only with exchange it offers its workgroup funktions
> which are from interest in companies
> m$ has no interest to make it
> better work with imap cause , they would loose money if the do so,
> cause as time goes by , specially smaller companies may find
> no need to buy expensive windows and exchange servers outlook  
> licences anymore

Preaching to the choir.

> advice users to use thunderbird/lightning as better choice

I do. I actually push Thunderbird pretty heavily. Maybe too heavily.

> Same goes to apple mail which does serveral funny stuff with imap
> All these products are formed to make money with the special  
> services m$
> and apple provides, they arent meant to be highly compatible
> to wide spreaded imap,smtp opensoftware servers which mostly very  
> clean coded

We'll I'll have to disagree with you there. I find Mail.app to be a  
great little program. Mac OS X Server uses Cyrus and Postfix. I've  
even gone command line to fine tune some spam settings. Now, you can  
certainly dis-Apple for many other things, but Mail.app works to spec.


Jason Wohlford
<jason at wohlford.org>

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