Debian 13 with Dovecot-2.3 from dovecot repos
I have 2 servers with Debian, set up with postfixadmin back then.
So far they ran on Debian-12.x (12.11) with this as external repo.list:
https://repo.dovecot.org/ce-2.3-latest/debian/bullseye/
This gives me:
dovecot-core 2.3.21.1-2+debian11
Fine.
Now I upgraded one of these servers to debian-13 and did NOT remove or edit the repo.list.
Now I have Debian-13.0.0 with still dovecot-core 2.3.21.1-2+debian11:
apt-cache policy dovecot-core dovecot-core: Installed: 2:2.3.21.1-2+debian11 Candidate: 2:2.3.21.1-2+debian11 Version table: *** 2:2.3.21.1-2+debian11 500 500 https://repo.dovecot.org/ce-2.3-latest/debian/bullseye bullseye/main amd64 Packages 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status 1:2.4.1+dfsg1-6 500 500 http://ftp.at.debian.org/debian trixie/main amd64 Packages 500 http://deb.debian.org/debian trixie/main amd64 Packages
I don't mind, it's OK for me, I still have to work through the config changes needed to upgrade to dovecot-2.4
Is this combination OK, is it problematic?
(for me things work so far, I can mail quite fine)
I consider doing it on a customer server this evening, and hope for a quick "it's fine!" from this ml ;-)
thanks all, Stefan
Hi Debian have something like Preferences in apt and packages will be working fine
W dniu 26.08.2025 o 16:52, Stefan G. Weichinger via dovecot pisze:
I have 2 servers with Debian, set up with postfixadmin back then.
So far they ran on Debian-12.x (12.11) with this as external repo.list:
https://repo.dovecot.org/ce-2.3-latest/debian/bullseye/
This gives me:
dovecot-core 2.3.21.1-2+debian11
Fine.
Now I upgraded one of these servers to debian-13 and did NOT remove or edit the repo.list.
Now I have Debian-13.0.0 with still dovecot-core 2.3.21.1-2+debian11:
apt-cache policy dovecot-core dovecot-core: Installed: 2:2.3.21.1-2+debian11 Candidate: 2:2.3.21.1-2+debian11 Version table: *** 2:2.3.21.1-2+debian11 500 500 https://repo.dovecot.org/ce-2.3-latest/debian/bullseye bullseye/main amd64 Packages 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status 1:2.4.1+dfsg1-6 500 500 http://ftp.at.debian.org/debian trixie/main amd64 Packages 500 http://deb.debian.org/debian trixie/main amd64 Packages
I don't mind, it's OK for me, I still have to work through the config changes needed to upgrade to dovecot-2.4
Is this combination OK, is it problematic?
(for me things work so far, I can mail quite fine)
I consider doing it on a customer server this evening, and hope for a quick "it's fine!" from this ml ;-)
thanks all, Stefan
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Am 26.08.25 um 17:03 schrieb Maciej Milaszewski via dovecot:
Hi Debian have something like Preferences in apt and packages will be working fine
thank you. For our setup the config conversion isn't that easy, so the step to dovecot-2.4 has to be prepared and tested ...
So far 2.3 runs fine even with Trixie.
On 27/08/25, Stefan G. Weichinger via dovecot (dovecot@dovecot.org) wrote:
Am 26.08.25 um 17:03 schrieb Maciej Milaszewski via dovecot:
Hi Debian have something like Preferences in apt and packages will be working fine
thank you. For our setup the config conversion isn't that easy, so the step to dovecot-2.4 has to be prepared and tested ...
So far 2.3 runs fine even with Trixie.
I've often used apt-pinning in this way. (https://douglasrumbaugh.com/post/apt-pinning/)
The issue may be that 2.3.x series may not receive security updates, I guess?
Am 27.08.25 um 16:52 schrieb Rory Campbell-Lange:
On 27/08/25, Stefan G. Weichinger via dovecot (dovecot@dovecot.org) wrote: I've often used apt-pinning in this way. (https://douglasrumbaugh.com/post/apt-pinning/)
The issue may be that 2.3.x series may not receive security updates, I guess?
That's why I asked ;-)
here it was mentioned that 2.3 gets security patches:
https://dovecot.org/mailman3/archives/list/dovecot@dovecot.org/thread/3P45L7...
I don't know if the 2.3 repositories for Debian will be maintained also, but I assume so.
The upgrade to 2.4 is planned here, but the config changes are quite drastic as far as I see. Until I figured out how to convert all the sieve- and imapsieve-parameters I will stay on 2.3. Yes, I read the docs, sure, but without some kind of secondary test-clone this looks too risky for me right now. I prepare the new config in a test VM and work my way through it until dovecot doesn't complain anymore.
I assume the 2.3 repos will live for a few months from now, I will be ready to upgrade sooner ;-)
Look here : https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/dovecot
dovecot 2.3 has entered pldstable and old-sec. It will receive security patches as long as oldstable lives 2026-06-10 as of https://www.debian.org/releases/ may be longer depending on LTS team.
-----Original Message----- From: Stefan G. Weichinger via dovecot <dovecot@dovecot.org> Reply-To: Stefan G. Weichinger <lists@xunil.at> To: dovecot <dovecot@dovecot.org> Subject: Re: Debian 13 with Dovecot-2.3 from dovecot repos Date: 28/08/25 08:04:47
Am 27.08.25 um 16:52 schrieb Rory Campbell-Lange:
On 27/08/25, Stefan G. Weichinger via dovecot (dovecot@dovecot.org) wrote: I've often used apt-pinning in this way. (https://douglasrumbaugh.com/post/apt-pinning/)
The issue may be that 2.3.x series may not receive security updates, I guess?
That's why I asked ;-)
here it was mentioned that 2.3 gets security patches:
https://dovecot.org/mailman3/archives/list/dovecot@dovecot.org/thread/3P45L7...
I don't know if the 2.3 repositories for Debian will be maintained also, but I assume so.
The upgrade to 2.4 is planned here, but the config changes are quite drastic as far as I see. Until I figured out how to convert all the sieve- and imapsieve-parameters I will stay on 2.3. Yes, I read the docs, sure, but without some kind of secondary test-clone this looks too risky for me right now. I prepare the new config in a test VM and work my way through it until dovecot doesn't complain anymore.
I assume the 2.3 repos will live for a few months from now, I will be ready to upgrade sooner ;-)
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Am 28.08.25 um 11:02 schrieb Josef Moosbauer via dovecot:
Look here : https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/dovecot
dovecot 2.3 has entered pldstable and old-sec. It will receive security patches as long as oldstable lives 2026-06-10 as of https://www.debian.org/releases/ may be longer depending on LTS team.
that relates to the packages in the official debian repos
As mentioned I use the packages from dovecot.org:
https://repo.dovecot.org/ce-2.3-latest/debian/bullseye/
The EOL of these packages might be different, right?
So maybe I would have to switch over and remove the extra repo from my setup.
On Thu, Aug 28, 2025 at 03:02:45PM +0200, Stefan G. Weichinger via dovecot wrote:
Look here : https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/dovecot
dovecot 2.3 has entered pldstable and old-sec. It will receive security patches as long as oldstable lives 2026-06-10 as of https://www.debian.org/releases/ may be longer depending on LTS team.
that relates to the packages in the official debian repos
As mentioned I use the packages from dovecot.org:
https://repo.dovecot.org/ce-2.3-latest/debian/bullseye/
The EOL of these packages might be different, right?
So maybe I would have to switch over and remove the extra repo from my setup.
Yes, these packages are provided by Dovecot and may have a different support lifecycle from those provided by Debian.
In general, I'd expect the packages distributed by Dovecot to work on newer distro releases. The package manager will not remove any dependencies as long as the packages remain installed. The main concern is the case when some package from the new distro version conflicts with an older version (that is, they can't both be present on the system simultaneously). You'd likely have already run into this if you've upgraded to trixie, though. Any updates to the Dovecot packages will still be installed as expected.
I don't have any experience migrating (in either direction) between the Dovecot-provided packages and the Debian-provided packages, so if you do pursue that course, be sure to test thoroughly before going to prod.
noah (Debian Dovecot maintainer)
Am 28.08.25 um 15:15 schrieb Noah Meyerhans via dovecot:
Yes, these packages are provided by Dovecot and may have a different support lifecycle from those provided by Debian.
In general, I'd expect the packages distributed by Dovecot to work on newer distro releases. The package manager will not remove any dependencies as long as the packages remain installed. The main concern is the case when some package from the new distro version conflicts with an older version (that is, they can't both be present on the system simultaneously). You'd likely have already run into this if you've upgraded to trixie, though. Any updates to the Dovecot packages will still be installed as expected.
I don't have any experience migrating (in either direction) between the Dovecot-provided packages and the Debian-provided packages, so if you do pursue that course, be sure to test thoroughly before going to prod.
thanks @noah for this information
So far two servers run fine with this combo of trixie + 2.3 packages from dovecot-repo (for me)
As mentioned I plan to do the step to dovecot-2.4 as soon as possible, after figuring out the config changes and testing them as good as I can.
From https://dovecot.org/mailman3/archives/list/dovecot-news@dovecot.org/thread/3...
Dovecot lifecycle announcement (excerpt) For Dovecot CE 2.3 we will provide critical security bug fixes. If you are using a 2.3.x version packaged from an Operating System Vendor, please open a bug against them for fixing it. We do not provide patches or bug fixes against these OS Vendor specific releases.
No dates mentioned
-----Original Message----- From: Stefan G. Weichinger via dovecot <dovecot@dovecot.org> Reply-To: Stefan G. Weichinger <lists@xunil.at> To: dovecot@dovecot.org Subject: Re: Debian 13 with Dovecot-2.3 from dovecot repos Date: 28/08/25 15:02:45
Am 28.08.25 um 11:02 schrieb Josef Moosbauer via dovecot:
Look here : https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/dovecot
dovecot 2.3 has entered pldstable and old-sec. It will receive security patches as long as oldstable lives 2026-06-10 as of https://www.debian.org/releases/ may be longer depending on LTS team.
that relates to the packages in the official debian repos
As mentioned I use the packages from dovecot.org:
https://repo.dovecot.org/ce-2.3-latest/debian/bullseye/
The EOL of these packages might be different, right?
So maybe I would have to switch over and remove the extra repo from my setup.
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W dniu 27.08.2025 o 15:11, Stefan G. Weichinger via dovecot pisze:
Am 26.08.25 um 17:03 schrieb Maciej Milaszewski via dovecot:
Hi Debian have something like Preferences in apt and packages will be working fine
thank you. For our setup the config conversion isn't that easy, so the step to dovecot-2.4 has to be prepared and tested ...
So far 2.3 runs fine even with Trixie. Did you use doveadm and Director ?
I still drimming about "fork" solutions for 2.4.x :)
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Josef Moosbauer
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Noah Meyerhans
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Rory Campbell-Lange
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Stefan G. Weichinger