Re: [Dovecot] Android ICS stock client and IMAP Capability issue.
Hello,
My phone: Android ics 4.1.2 on galaxy nexus. And yes, stock mean the default client that come with the os in IMAP mode.
I already know about that configuration parameter, but it will display two time namespace in postlogin capabilities, and so I like much more to adjust the source code to fix the issue.
Yes there is k9 but I didn't like it too much, I prefer the stock client and is much important to keep compatibility with stock client then user-installed client.
About the issue on Google code, there is thr issue on google code... but Google is a lot slow in fixing those things. http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=1811
In a few hour I'll update the issue noticing where is hidden the problem.
Regards Sent from Galaxy Nexus
Robert Schetterer rs@sys4.de ha scritto:
Am 06.11.2012 07:08, schrieb Ben Morrow:
At 6AM +0100 on 6/11/12 you (Massimiliano Cianelli) wrote:
Hi,
My setup: Dovecot 2 latest, installed to replace courrier IMAP, and off course configured with the dot separator and all folder under INBOX.*.
The problem: My phone was driving me mad during the test, due that it will only recognize Inbox.
How found the solution: I've started sniffing IMAP traffic on my server and ended up with one difference: On courier it ask for namespace, on dovecot it won't.
I gives a better look, and noticed that courier show namespace capability on prelogin banner, adding it too solved the problem.
Reason: Android ICS stock client seems do not honor the capability gived after the login.
See http://wiki2.dovecot.org/Upgrading/2.0?highlight=%28capability%29 ; you need to set imap_capability and/or get your client fixed.
Ben
Hi, first ,what is the exact meaning of
"Android ICS stock client"
do you mean default included email client in standard android in imap mode, when yes, which version of Android , i like to test my own however is there changelog/code etc at google for this behave?
conf example
# Override the IMAP CAPABILITY response. If the value begins with '+', # add the given capabilities on top of the defaults (e.g. +XFOO XBAR). #imap_capability =
setting stuff here might be complex , or lead to trouble with other clients, if setting this might fix problems ,with clients it should be advised in the wiki/example-conf and/or Timo
or the other way ,for massive used clients there should be a seperate workaround section in the conf
But fixing behave clients should be prime option anyway
Meanwhile use K9mail in Android as best free option in imap mode servers
Best Regards MfG Robert Schetterer
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Am 07.11.2012 08:13, schrieb Massimiliano Cianelli:
Hello,
My phone: Android ics 4.1.2 on galaxy nexus. And yes, stock mean the default client that come with the os in IMAP mode.
I already know about that configuration parameter, but it will display two time namespace in postlogin capabilities, and so I like much more to adjust the source code to fix the issue.
Yes there is k9 but I didn't like it too much, I prefer the stock client and is much important to keep compatibility with stock client then user-installed client.
About the issue on Google code, there is thr issue on google code... but Google is a lot slow in fixing those things. http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=1811
In a few hour I'll update the issue noticing where is hidden the problem.
Regards Sent from Galaxy Nexus
Hi , i shortly tested this with android sdk jelly bean 4.1.1 and "my setup" dovecot 2.1.10 with included orginal android mail app in imap mode, ,leaving IMAP prefix blank, everything works as expected, no double shown inbox, namespace problems etc so you might have to fit your namespace setup. Also you might follow allready given advice from here.
Anyway , i understand you using "stock client" but you have to understand that the producers of mail clients optimize their stuff fitting best in their own server structure making money with it, therefor their motivation coding better imap code is not very high, same case is for outlook and microsoft however, i would say, fixing bugs is on the google site here, looks like there is patch at http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=1811 and the issue seems long known
i dont see any hard relation to dovecot in this case meanwhile using k9mail seems the best way to workaround there are lots of other bugs around android versions over the years i dont expect google to fix them
Robert Schetterer rs@sys4.de ha scritto:
Am 06.11.2012 07:08, schrieb Ben Morrow:
At 6AM +0100 on 6/11/12 you (Massimiliano Cianelli) wrote:
Hi,
My setup: Dovecot 2 latest, installed to replace courrier IMAP, and off course configured with the dot separator and all folder under INBOX.*.
The problem: My phone was driving me mad during the test, due that it will only recognize Inbox.
How found the solution: I've started sniffing IMAP traffic on my server and ended up with one difference: On courier it ask for namespace, on dovecot it won't.
I gives a better look, and noticed that courier show namespace capability on prelogin banner, adding it too solved the problem.
Reason: Android ICS stock client seems do not honor the capability gived after the login.
See http://wiki2.dovecot.org/Upgrading/2.0?highlight=%28capability%29 ; you need to set imap_capability and/or get your client fixed.
Ben
Hi, first ,what is the exact meaning of
"Android ICS stock client"
do you mean default included email client in standard android in imap mode, when yes, which version of Android , i like to test my own however is there changelog/code etc at google for this behave?
conf example
# Override the IMAP CAPABILITY response. If the value begins with '+', # add the given capabilities on top of the defaults (e.g. +XFOO XBAR). #imap_capability =
setting stuff here might be complex , or lead to trouble with other clients, if setting this might fix problems ,with clients it should be advised in the wiki/example-conf and/or Timo
or the other way ,for massive used clients there should be a seperate workaround section in the conf
But fixing behave clients should be prime option anyway
Meanwhile use K9mail in Android as best free option in imap mode servers
Best Regards MfG Robert Schetterer
-- [*] sys4 AG
http://sys4.de, +49 (89) 30 90 46 64 Franziskanerstraße 15, 81669 München
Sitz der Gesellschaft: München, Amtsgericht München: HRB 199263 Vorstand: Patrick Ben Koetter, Axel von der Ohe, Marc Schiffbauer Aufsichtsratsvorsitzender: Joerg Heidrich
Best Regards MfG Robert Schetterer
-- [*] sys4 AG
http://sys4.de, +49 (89) 30 90 46 64 Franziskanerstraße 15, 81669 München
Sitz der Gesellschaft: München, Amtsgericht München: HRB 199263 Vorstand: Patrick Ben Koetter, Axel von der Ohe, Marc Schiffbauer Aufsichtsratsvorsitzender: Joerg Heidrich
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