Calendar and address book with Dovecot

mimicafe＠gmail.com

9 Apr 2015 9 Apr '15

7:46 p.m.

Hi all

I recently install Postfix and Dovecot, and so far so good. My assumption was that calendar and address book (similar to Gmail calendar or address book) are part of Dovecot. However I do not see anything concerning them in any of the docs I have read so far.

What other software (ideally open source, free) do I need in other to have Calendar and address book so my users can manage their contact on their phones or computer? I have looked at Roundcube already, but my requirement is not necessarily to provide web mail.

Thanks

Mimi

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mihai＠badici.ro

9 Apr 9 Apr

8:07 p.m.

On Thursday 09 April 2015 17:46:04 mimicafe@gmail.com wrote:

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Hi all

I recently install Postfix and Dovecot, and so far so good. My assumption was that calendar and address book (similar to Gmail calendar or address book) are part of Dovecot. However I do not see anything concerning them in any of the docs I have read so far.

Check the kolab project. It's cyrus based but there are some attempt to use Dovecot instead, it works pretty well .

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What other software (ideally open source, free) do I need in other to have Calendar and address book so my users can manage their contact on their phones or computer? I have looked at Roundcube already, but my requirement is not necessarily to provide web mail.

You need client support for calendar /address book because is not standard. If not webmail, you need support in imap/activesync/webdav etc

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Thanks

Mimi

Jochen Bern

8:07 p.m.

On 04/09/2015 06:46 PM, mimicafe@gmail.com wrote:

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What other software (ideally open source, free) do I need in other to have Calendar and address book so my users can manage their contact on their phones or computer? I have looked at Roundcube already, but my requirement is not necessarily to provide web mail.

The keyword you're looking for is "groupware" - which dovecot isn't.

Now, what *protocols* do those pre-existing clients support to tie them to a groupware solution? MAPI? CalDAV? LDAP? (And I'm pretty sure I can't list even *half* of the contenders ...)

Regards, J. Bern

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mimicafe＠gmail.com

10 Apr 10 Apr

4:44 p.m.

Firstly I need to look at various available options to determine which way to go. However, our clients including Windows machine, Mac, Android and iOS. To the best of my knowledge, all the clients support the various protocols except LDAP which may not be supported on mobile devices.

A quick search for suggested "groupware" showed a number of implementation I could look at.

Thanks

Mimi

On 9 April 2015 at 18:07, Jochen Bern Jochen.Bern@linworks.de wrote:

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On 04/09/2015 06:46 PM, mimicafe@gmail.com wrote:

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What other software (ideally open source, free) do I need in other to have Calendar and address book so my users can manage their contact on their phones or computer? I have looked at Roundcube already, but my requirement is not necessarily to provide web mail.

The keyword you're looking for is "groupware" - which dovecot isn't.

Now, what *protocols* do those pre-existing clients support to tie them to a groupware solution? MAPI? CalDAV? LDAP? (And I'm pretty sure I can't list even *half* of the contenders ...)

Regards, J. Bern

*NEU* - NEC IT-Infrastruktur-Produkte im http://www.linworks-shop.de/: Server--Storage--Virtualisierung--Management SW--Passion for Performance Jochen Bern, Systemingenieur --- LINworks GmbH http://www.LINworks.de/ Postfach 100121, 64201 Darmstadt | Robert-Koch-Str. 9, 64331 Weiterstadt PGP (1024D/4096g) FP = D18B 41B1 16C0 11BA 7F8C DCF7 E1D5 FAF4 444E 1C27 Tel. +49 6151 9067-231, Zentr. -0, Fax -299 - Amtsg. Darmstadt HRB 85202 Unternehmenssitz Weiterstadt, Geschäftsführer Metin Dogan, Oliver Michel

Robert Schetterer

9 Apr 9 Apr

8:24 p.m.

Am 09.04.2015 um 18:46 schrieb mimicafe@gmail.com:

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Hi all

I recently install Postfix and Dovecot, and so far so good. My assumption was that calendar and address book (similar to Gmail calendar or address book) are part of Dovecot. However I do not see anything concerning them in any of the docs I have read so far.

What other software (ideally open source, free) do I need in other to have Calendar and address book so my users can manage their contact on their phones or computer? I have looked at Roundcube already, but my requirement is not necessarily to provide web mail.

Thanks

Mimi

cal/card dav may come in dovecot

http://www.dovecot.org/talks/berlin-20140513.pptx.pdf

... Future: Random New Stuff

CalDAV CardDAV

Can’t fall behind Cyrus

meanwhile you need another solution i.e horde webmail acts as cal/card dav ,active sync , syncml server

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CalDAV http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CardDAV http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ActiveSync http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SyncML

Best Regards MfG Robert Schetterer

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9:21 p.m.

On Apr 9, 2015, at 12:24 PM, Robert Schetterer rs@sys4.de wrote:

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Am 09.04.2015 um 18:46 schrieb mimicafe@gmail.com: Hi all

I recently install Postfix and Dovecot, and so far so good. My assumption was that calendar and address book (similar to Gmail calendar or address book) are part of Dovecot. However I do not see anything concerning them in any of the docs I have read so far.

What other software (ideally open source, free) do I need in other to have Calendar and address book so my users can manage their contact on their phones or computer? I have looked at Roundcube already, but my requirement is not necessarily to provide web mail.

Thanks

Mimi

cal/card dav may come in dovecot

http://www.dovecot.org/talks/berlin-20140513.pptx.pdf

... Future:
Random
New
Stuff

CalDAV CardDAV

Can’t
fall
behind
Cyrus

meanwhile you need another solution i.e horde webmail acts as cal/card dav ,active sync , syncml server

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CalDAV http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CardDAV http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ActiveSync http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SyncML

Best Regards MfG Robert Schetterer

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The notion that dovecot needs to stay just an IMAP server is ridiculous. I thoroughly encourage it to grow into a fully featured and open source messaging and groupware system. This is great news!

Dominik Breu

8:34 p.m.

Hello,

if you don't depend on a fancy webinterface give http://radicale.org/ a shot you can auth users aganst your imap server.

greets

Am Donnerstag, den 09.04.2015, 17:46 +0100 schrieb mimicafe@gmail.com:

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Hi all

I recently install Postfix and Dovecot, and so far so good. My assumption was that calendar and address book (similar to Gmail calendar or address book) are part of Dovecot. However I do not see anything concerning them in any of the docs I have read so far.

What other software (ideally open source, free) do I need in other to have Calendar and address book so my users can manage their contact on their phones or computer? I have looked at Roundcube already, but my requirement is not necessarily to provide web mail.

Thanks

Mimi

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9:17 p.m.

We tried radicale, it didn't work at all as we found out the db support was completely broken.

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On Apr 9, 2015, at 12:34 PM, Dominik Breu dominik@dominikbreu.de wrote:

Hello,

if you don't depend on a fancy webinterface give http://radicale.org/ a shot you can auth users aganst your imap server.

greets

Am Donnerstag, den 09.04.2015, 17:46 +0100 schrieb mimicafe@gmail.com:

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Hi all

I recently install Postfix and Dovecot, and so far so good. My assumption was that calendar and address book (similar to Gmail calendar or address book) are part of Dovecot. However I do not see anything concerning them in any of the docs I have read so far.

What other software (ideally open source, free) do I need in other to have Calendar and address book so my users can manage their contact on their phones or computer? I have looked at Roundcube already, but my requirement is not necessarily to provide web mail.

Thanks

Mimi

Mihai Badici

9:55 p.m.

On Thursday 09 April 2015 13:17:17 list@airstreamcomm.net wrote:

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We tried radicale, it didn't work at all as we found out the db support was completely broken.

I think is stupid to use two different storage, one for mails and the second for contact/calendar. That's why I choose kolab, who store all thing in IMAP folders. I think is The Right Way :) But is not easy, I must admit. The suport for metadata need some extensions ( I'm not sure it works for public folders) Kolab is a little bit too complex, it use 389 directory , php extensions etc. But with a little effort you can use the basic with dovecot. I tried to put together all thing here http://machinet.badici.ro/ but is rather a draft. I use this setup from some time and it works well, but if you want an click and go solution you need to go elswere.

Mihai Badici[1]

[1] http://mihai.badici.ro

J. Echter

11:44 p.m.

Am 09.04.2015 um 18:46 schrieb mimicafe@gmail.com:

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Hi all

I recently install Postfix and Dovecot, and so far so good. My assumption was that calendar and address book (similar to Gmail calendar or address book) are part of Dovecot. However I do not see anything concerning them in any of the docs I have read so far.

What other software (ideally open source, free) do I need in other to have Calendar and address book so my users can manage their contact on their phones or computer? I have looked at Roundcube already, but my requirement is not necessarily to provide web mail.

Thanks

Mimi SOGo?

www.sogo.nu

Márcio Merlone

10 Apr 10 Apr

7:46 p.m.

On 09-04-2015 17:44, J. Echter wrote:

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Am 09.04.2015 um 18:46 schrieb mimicafe@gmail.com:

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What other software (ideally open source, free) do I need in other to have Calendar and address book so my users can manage their contact on their phones or computer? I have looked at Roundcube already, but my requirement is not necessarily to provide web mail. SOGo?

www.sogo.nu

We have SOGo providing shared calendars and contacts for 100+ users, using Thunderbird + Lightning and SOGo extensions. It has a full-featured web interface for mail, calendar and contacts.

My boss once said he wanted MS-Exchange no matter what cost. Once we got the quotation (within the price range he asked for) we scheduled a briefing to demo its functionalities and features. After that day he realized we already have all we need and never mentioned it again. SOGo also implements MS-ActiveSync protocol, so you can use native Android and iOS features as if it were an MS-Exchange server.

We run Postfix + Dovecot (with sieve) + SOGo

-- *Marcio Merlone*

Patrick Ben Koetter

9 Apr 9 Apr

11:49 p.m.

mimicafe@gmail.com mimicafe@gmail.com:

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What other software (ideally open source, free) do I need in other to have Calendar and address book so my users can manage their contact on their phones or computer? I have looked at Roundcube already, but my requirement is not necessarily to provide web mail.

What comes to mind:

Horde
SOGo
Kolab
Radicale
Modoboa (with management for Radicale)

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Peter Chiochetti

10 Apr 10 Apr

3:01 a.m.

Am 2015-04-09 um 18:46 schrieb mimicafe@gmail.com:

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What other software (ideally open source, free) do I need in other to have Calendar and address book so my users can manage their contact on their phones or computer?

I use davical quite painless for calendaring http://www.davical.org/ with Thunderbird and Android app. Addresses synced to Thunderbird with sogo connector (not 100% deterministic).

It is completely separate from dovecot. I do not see why dovecot should do caldav or carddav.

-- peter

Matthias Fechner

9:03 a.m.

Am 09.04.2015 um 18:46 schrieb mimicafe@gmail.com:

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What other software (ideally open source, free) do I need in other to have Calendar and address book so my users can manage their contact on their phones or computer? I have looked at Roundcube already, but my requirement is not necessarily to provide web mail.

check in addition to dovecot owncloud.org. Both in combination with roundcube is working fine.

Gruß Matthias

"Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the universe is winning." -- Rich Cook

Jean-François Sénéchal

12:20 p.m.

sogo works fine otherwise there was open xchange ^ - ^

Le 10/04/2015 08:03, Matthias Fechner a écrit :

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Am 09.04.2015 um 18:46 schrieb mimicafe@gmail.com:

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What other software (ideally open source, free) do I need in other to have Calendar and address book so my users can manage their contact on their phones or computer? I have looked at Roundcube already, but my requirement is not necessarily to provide web mail. check in addition to dovecot owncloud.org. Both in combination with roundcube is working fine.

Gruß Matthias

Giedrius Liubavičius

12:39 p.m.

2015.04.10 09:03, Matthias Fechner rašė:

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Am 09.04.2015 um 18:46 schrieb mimicafe@gmail.com:

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What other software (ideally open source, free) do I need in other to have Calendar and address book so my users can manage their contact on their phones or computer? I have looked at Roundcube already, but my requirement is not necessarily to provide web mail. check in addition to dovecot owncloud.org. Both in combination with roundcube is working fine.

Correction. It is working fine up to the point when you want to use

AD...... and by using AD, I mean: you either use AD logins, or ownCloud (probably email based) ones...... (nobody wants to use separate accounts: {AD} one for data sharing and {email based} other for cal / addr book) But this implies a problem with constantly changing passwords {for CalDav / CardDav} on mobile devices / email clients etc.... (dovecot's own IMAP CalDav / CardDav support because of this mess would be SUPER)

[OT] if anyone is interested I have dirty, but quite good SSO login

addon + patch for ownCloud's seamless auhentication with AD, *if* any computer is connected to the AD {user has Kerberos ticket}

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Gruß Matthias

Matthias Sitte

4:50 p.m.

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What other software (ideally open source, free) do I need in other to have Calendar and address book so my users can manage their contact on their phones or computer? I have looked at Roundcube already, but my requirement is not necessarily to provide web mail.

sabre/dav [1] is a PHP-based CalDAV/CardDAV server and easy to set up; docs are really good with examples. Took me less than 30 min to set it up and get it working with multiple Thunderbird/Icedove instances (you have to use SoGO connector) and multiple iPhones.

If needed, you can integrate many backends and frontends like Roundcube as well.

Matthias

[1] http://sabre.io/

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Dominik Breu
Giedrius Liubavičius
J. Echter
Jean-François Sénéchal
Jochen Bern
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Matthias Fechner
Matthias Sitte
Mihai Badici
mihai＠badici.ro
mimicafe＠gmail.com
Márcio Merlone
Patrick Ben Koetter
Peter Chiochetti
Robert Schetterer