Is it a bug when you move mail between namespaces....

Larry Rosenman

8 Sep 2015 8 Sep '15

12:56 a.m.

that the fts data gets lost?

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Timo Sirainen

8 Sep 8 Sep

1 a.m.

On 09/08/2015 12:56 AM, Larry Rosenman wrote:

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that the fts data gets lost?

All full text search backends are now implemented so that if you copy/move mails, the mails need to be indexed again the destination folder.

Alternative would be to index mails only with their GUIDs and have a GUID => { folder GUID, IMAP UID } mapping and filter the mails based on that. But such reverse index doesn't exist quite yet.

Larry Rosenman

1:01 a.m.

should fts_autoindex handle that case?

On Mon, Sep 7, 2015 at 5:00 PM, Timo Sirainen tss@iki.fi wrote:

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On 09/08/2015 12:56 AM, Larry Rosenman wrote:

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that the fts data gets lost?

All full text search backends are now implemented so that if you copy/move mails, the mails need to be indexed again the destination folder.

Alternative would be to index mails only with their GUIDs and have a GUID => { folder GUID, IMAP UID } mapping and filter the mails based on that. But such reverse index doesn't exist quite yet.

-- Larry Rosenman http://www.lerctr.org/~ler Phone: +1 214-642-9640 (c) E-Mail: larryrtx@gmail.com US Mail: 7011 W Parmer Ln, Apt 1115, Austin, TX 78729-6961

Timo Sirainen

1:22 a.m.

It should.

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On 08 Sep 2015, at 01:01, Larry Rosenman larryrtx@gmail.com wrote:

should fts_autoindex handle that case?

On Mon, Sep 7, 2015 at 5:00 PM, Timo Sirainen mailto:tss@iki.fi> wrote: On 09/08/2015 12:56 AM, Larry Rosenman wrote:

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that the fts data gets lost?

All full text search backends are now implemented so that if you copy/move mails, the mails need to be indexed again the destination folder.

Alternative would be to index mails only with their GUIDs and have a GUID => { folder GUID, IMAP UID } mapping and filter the mails based on that. But such reverse index doesn't exist quite yet.

-- Larry Rosenman http://www.lerctr.org/~ler http://www.lerctr.org/~ler Phone: +1 214-642-9640 (c) E-Mail: larryrtx@gmail.com mailto:larryrtx@gmail.com US Mail: 7011 W Parmer Ln, Apt 1115, Austin, TX 78729-6961

Larry Rosenman

1:23 a.m.

It doesn't in my current 2.2.18 setup with the config I posted.

On Mon, Sep 7, 2015 at 5:22 PM, Timo Sirainen tss@iki.fi wrote:

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It should.

On 08 Sep 2015, at 01:01, Larry Rosenman larryrtx@gmail.com wrote:

should fts_autoindex handle that case?

On Mon, Sep 7, 2015 at 5:00 PM, Timo Sirainen tss@iki.fi wrote:

...
On 09/08/2015 12:56 AM, Larry Rosenman wrote:

...
that the fts data gets lost?

All full text search backends are now implemented so that if you copy/move mails, the mails need to be indexed again the destination folder.

Alternative would be to index mails only with their GUIDs and have a GUID => { folder GUID, IMAP UID } mapping and filter the mails based on that. But such reverse index doesn't exist quite yet.

-- Larry Rosenman http://www.lerctr.org/~ler Phone: +1 214-642-9640 (c) E-Mail: larryrtx@gmail.com US Mail: 7011 W Parmer Ln, Apt 1115, Austin, TX 78729-6961

-- Larry Rosenman http://www.lerctr.org/~ler Phone: +1 214-642-9640 (c) E-Mail: larryrtx@gmail.com US Mail: 7011 W Parmer Ln, Apt 1115, Austin, TX 78729-6961

Larry Rosenman

10 Sep 10 Sep

9:05 p.m.

Is there a fix coming for this, Timo? Or is it a longer term issue?

On Mon, Sep 7, 2015 at 5:23 PM, Larry Rosenman larryrtx@gmail.com wrote:

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It doesn't in my current 2.2.18 setup with the config I posted.

On Mon, Sep 7, 2015 at 5:22 PM, Timo Sirainen tss@iki.fi wrote:

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It should.

On 08 Sep 2015, at 01:01, Larry Rosenman larryrtx@gmail.com wrote:

should fts_autoindex handle that case?

On Mon, Sep 7, 2015 at 5:00 PM, Timo Sirainen tss@iki.fi wrote:

...
On 09/08/2015 12:56 AM, Larry Rosenman wrote:

...
that the fts data gets lost?

All full text search backends are now implemented so that if you copy/move mails, the mails need to be indexed again the destination folder.

Alternative would be to index mails only with their GUIDs and have a GUID => { folder GUID, IMAP UID } mapping and filter the mails based on that. But such reverse index doesn't exist quite yet.

-- Larry Rosenman http://www.lerctr.org/~ler Phone: +1 214-642-9640 (c) E-Mail: larryrtx@gmail.com US Mail: 7011 W Parmer Ln, Apt 1115, Austin, TX 78729-6961

-- Larry Rosenman http://www.lerctr.org/~ler Phone: +1 214-642-9640 (c) E-Mail: larryrtx@gmail.com US Mail: 7011 W Parmer Ln, Apt 1115, Austin, TX 78729-6961

-- Larry Rosenman http://www.lerctr.org/~ler Phone: +1 214-642-9640 (c) E-Mail: larryrtx@gmail.com US Mail: 7011 W Parmer Ln, Apt 1115, Austin, TX 78729-6961

Timo Sirainen

9:22 p.m.

It works for me. I don't know why it wouldn't work for you. Looking at the autoindexing code I don't see how it could be possible that it works for saving but not copying.

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On 10 Sep 2015, at 21:05, Larry Rosenman larryrtx@gmail.com wrote:

Is there a fix coming for this, Timo? Or is it a longer term issue?

On Mon, Sep 7, 2015 at 5:23 PM, Larry Rosenman mailto:larryrtx@gmail.com> wrote: It doesn't in my current 2.2.18 setup with the config I posted.

On Mon, Sep 7, 2015 at 5:22 PM, Timo Sirainen mailto:tss@iki.fi> wrote: It should.

...
On 08 Sep 2015, at 01:01, Larry Rosenman mailto:larryrtx@gmail.com> wrote:

should fts_autoindex handle that case?

On Mon, Sep 7, 2015 at 5:00 PM, Timo Sirainen mailto:tss@iki.fi> wrote: On 09/08/2015 12:56 AM, Larry Rosenman wrote:

...
that the fts data gets lost?

All full text search backends are now implemented so that if you copy/move mails, the mails need to be indexed again the destination folder.

Alternative would be to index mails only with their GUIDs and have a GUID => { folder GUID, IMAP UID } mapping and filter the mails based on that. But such reverse index doesn't exist quite yet.

-- Larry Rosenman http://www.lerctr.org/~ler http://www.lerctr.org/~ler Phone: +1 214-642-9640 tel:%2B1%20214-642-9640 (c) E-Mail: larryrtx@gmail.com mailto:larryrtx@gmail.com US Mail: 7011 W Parmer Ln, Apt 1115, Austin, TX 78729-6961

-- Larry Rosenman http://www.lerctr.org/~ler http://www.lerctr.org/~ler Phone: +1 214-642-9640 tel:%2B1%20214-642-9640 (c) E-Mail: larryrtx@gmail.com mailto:larryrtx@gmail.com US Mail: 7011 W Parmer Ln, Apt 1115, Austin, TX 78729-6961

-- Larry Rosenman http://www.lerctr.org/~ler http://www.lerctr.org/~ler Phone: +1 214-642-9640 (c) E-Mail: larryrtx@gmail.com mailto:larryrtx@gmail.com US Mail: 7011 W Parmer Ln, Apt 1115, Austin, TX 78729-6961

Larry Rosenman

9:24 p.m.

my monthly archive script does:

echo date start ${i} doveadm mailbox create \#ARCHIVE/${YEAR_LAST_MONTH}/${i} doveadm -f tab mailbox status messages ${i} doveadm move \#ARCHIVE/${YEAR_LAST_MONTH}/${i} mailbox
${i} BEFORE ${TODAY} SINCE ${FIRST_LAST_MONTH} doveadm -f tab mailbox status messages ${i} echo date done ${i}

for each mailbox that has >= 1 message in it.

so on the move, the fts data gets lost / deleted.

On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 1:22 PM, Timo Sirainen tss@iki.fi wrote:

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It works for me. I don't know why it wouldn't work for you. Looking at the autoindexing code I don't see how it could be possible that it works for saving but not copying.

On 10 Sep 2015, at 21:05, Larry Rosenman larryrtx@gmail.com wrote:

Is there a fix coming for this, Timo? Or is it a longer term issue?

On Mon, Sep 7, 2015 at 5:23 PM, Larry Rosenman larryrtx@gmail.com wrote:

...
It doesn't in my current 2.2.18 setup with the config I posted.

On Mon, Sep 7, 2015 at 5:22 PM, Timo Sirainen tss@iki.fi wrote:

...
It should.

On 08 Sep 2015, at 01:01, Larry Rosenman larryrtx@gmail.com wrote:

should fts_autoindex handle that case?

On Mon, Sep 7, 2015 at 5:00 PM, Timo Sirainen tss@iki.fi wrote:

...
On 09/08/2015 12:56 AM, Larry Rosenman wrote:

...
that the fts data gets lost?

All full text search backends are now implemented so that if you copy/move mails, the mails need to be indexed again the destination folder.

Alternative would be to index mails only with their GUIDs and have a GUID => { folder GUID, IMAP UID } mapping and filter the mails based on that. But such reverse index doesn't exist quite yet.

-- Larry Rosenman http://www.lerctr.org/~ler Phone: +1 214-642-9640 (c) E-Mail: larryrtx@gmail.com US Mail: 7011 W Parmer Ln, Apt 1115, Austin, TX 78729-6961

-- Larry Rosenman http://www.lerctr.org/~ler Phone: +1 214-642-9640 (c) E-Mail: larryrtx@gmail.com US Mail: 7011 W Parmer Ln, Apt 1115, Austin, TX 78729-6961

-- Larry Rosenman http://www.lerctr.org/~ler Phone: +1 214-642-9640 (c) E-Mail: larryrtx@gmail.com US Mail: 7011 W Parmer Ln, Apt 1115, Austin, TX 78729-6961

-- Larry Rosenman http://www.lerctr.org/~ler Phone: +1 214-642-9640 (c) E-Mail: larryrtx@gmail.com US Mail: 7011 W Parmer Ln, Apt 1115, Austin, TX 78729-6961

Larry Rosenman

11 Sep 11 Sep

9:50 p.m.

Timo, Did you get a chance to look at this? Thanks!

On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 1:24 PM, Larry Rosenman larryrtx@gmail.com wrote:

...

my monthly archive script does:

echo date start ${i} doveadm mailbox create \#ARCHIVE/${YEAR_LAST_MONTH}/${i} doveadm -f tab mailbox status messages ${i} doveadm move \#ARCHIVE/${YEAR_LAST_MONTH}/${i} mailbox
${i} BEFORE ${TODAY} SINCE ${FIRST_LAST_MONTH} doveadm -f tab mailbox status messages ${i} echo date done ${i}

for each mailbox that has >= 1 message in it.

so on the move, the fts data gets lost / deleted.

On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 1:22 PM, Timo Sirainen tss@iki.fi wrote:

...
It works for me. I don't know why it wouldn't work for you. Looking at the autoindexing code I don't see how it could be possible that it works for saving but not copying.

On 10 Sep 2015, at 21:05, Larry Rosenman larryrtx@gmail.com wrote:

Is there a fix coming for this, Timo? Or is it a longer term issue?

On Mon, Sep 7, 2015 at 5:23 PM, Larry Rosenman larryrtx@gmail.com wrote:

...
It doesn't in my current 2.2.18 setup with the config I posted.

On Mon, Sep 7, 2015 at 5:22 PM, Timo Sirainen tss@iki.fi wrote:

...
It should.

On 08 Sep 2015, at 01:01, Larry Rosenman larryrtx@gmail.com wrote:

should fts_autoindex handle that case?

On Mon, Sep 7, 2015 at 5:00 PM, Timo Sirainen tss@iki.fi wrote:

...
On 09/08/2015 12:56 AM, Larry Rosenman wrote:

...
that the fts data gets lost?

All full text search backends are now implemented so that if you copy/move mails, the mails need to be indexed again the destination folder.

Alternative would be to index mails only with their GUIDs and have a GUID => { folder GUID, IMAP UID } mapping and filter the mails based on that. But such reverse index doesn't exist quite yet.

-- Larry Rosenman http://www.lerctr.org/~ler Phone: +1 214-642-9640 (c) E-Mail: larryrtx@gmail.com US Mail: 7011 W Parmer Ln, Apt 1115, Austin, TX 78729-6961

-- Larry Rosenman http://www.lerctr.org/~ler Phone: +1 214-642-9640 (c) E-Mail: larryrtx@gmail.com US Mail: 7011 W Parmer Ln, Apt 1115, Austin, TX 78729-6961

-- Larry Rosenman http://www.lerctr.org/~ler Phone: +1 214-642-9640 (c) E-Mail: larryrtx@gmail.com US Mail: 7011 W Parmer Ln, Apt 1115, Austin, TX 78729-6961

-- Larry Rosenman http://www.lerctr.org/~ler Phone: +1 214-642-9640 (c) E-Mail: larryrtx@gmail.com US Mail: 7011 W Parmer Ln, Apt 1115, Austin, TX 78729-6961

-- Larry Rosenman http://www.lerctr.org/~ler Phone: +1 214-642-9640 (c) E-Mail: larryrtx@gmail.com US Mail: 7011 W Parmer Ln, Apt 1115, Austin, TX 78729-6961

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