question on lmtp logged message

Leonardo Rodrigues leolistas at
Thu Jun 26 12:03:47 UTC 2014

Em 26/06/14 03:32, Steffen Kaiser escreveu:
> On Wed, 25 Jun 2014, Leonardo Rodrigues wrote:
>>    Anyway, sometimes LMTP seems to not be able to deliver some 
>> messages and keep them on postfixqueue. And on the next or third try, 
>> the message gets delivered successfully. The logged message, however, 
>> is not helping me identify what is happening.Example:
>> (error - message was expunged)
>> Jun 25 11:49:39 correio postfix/lmtp[21835]: ADB0A1AC05108: 
>> to=<vanilson.parreira at>, 
>>[private/dovecot-lmtp], conn_use=6, 
>> delay=13, delays=0.07/0/0/13, dsn=4.2.0, status=deferred (host 
>>[private/dovecot-lmtp] said: 451 4.2.0 
>> <vanilson.parreira at> Message was expunged 
>> (received-date) (in reply to end of DATA command))
> What does the Dovecot log says for the delivery attempt?

     exactly what's reported by postfix, no extra information there

Jun 25 11:49:39 correio dovecot: lmtp(766, 
vanilson.parreira at 645hNV7hqlP+AgAAHvf8vg: 
msgid=<F12DAC80721942C1842481355A0D08F8 at>: save failed to 
INBOX: Message was expunged (received-date)

> How many recipients does the message has and, if so, what about the 
> other recipients?

     After analyzing lots of cases (made a script for doing that), this 
seems to occur only on messages with more than 1 recipient, usually on 
messages with lots of recipients (>10) altough i got some on messages 
with 2 or 3.

     Some days ago, when trying to optimize somethings on the server, i 
changed two dovecot parameters:

maildir_copy_with_hardlinks to yes
pop3_fast_size_lookups to yes

     previously, both were no. I have returned both values to 'no' and 
this situation, 'message was expunged' seems to not be occurring 
anymore. Can this behavior by any chance related to these settings ?


	Atenciosamente / Sincerily,
	Leonardo Rodrigues
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