Dovecot Oy merger with Open-Xchange AG

Reindl Harald h.reindl at thelounge.net
Wed Apr 1 12:42:11 UTC 2015



Am 01.04.2015 um 14:33 schrieb Bernd Petrovitsch:
> On Mit, 2015-04-01 at 13:07 +0200, Reindl Harald wrote:
>> Am 01.04.2015 um 13:04 schrieb Bernd Petrovitsch:
>>> IMHO the larger the corporation is, the less are the chances for
>>> *long-term* benefits of the OSS/free software (mainly because: usually
>>> commercial success is driven and defined from marketing to sales[1] sown
>>> to the techies which are forced into "features" and "delivery dates" to
>>> achieve some "company defined goal" - and that is usually not "bug
>>> free", "safe", or the like. Free software/OSS just happens that *at
>>> least* half of it should come from the "working level" and that is - at
>>> least - much more - ahemm - "inconvenient" for sales people)
>
> FWIW the context were large "old-school" corps (like Novell or Oracle)
> taking over free software companies.
>
>> that is simple not true - if it would be true linux distributions would
>
> Define "true Linux distribution".

who the fuck was talking abiut "true Linux distribution"?

>> not include half baken and aplha quality sofwtare again and again in
>> stable releases because "the market out there"
>
> That's everywhere in the commercial world the problem with "delivery vs
> quality/known problems" and someone's decision to ship or not to ship -
> based in whatever feels appropriate.

and in the opensource world too - so shwat

> BTW typical Linux distributions package some else's software and
> (almost) everyone knows that (and do not blame the distro for shipping
> buggy software - is there actually any bug-free software?;-).
>
> And it depends on
> - the package (core package like kernel, gcc, perl, apache-http, ...)
>    vs some exotic application (the n+1.th text editor, MUA, ...).
> - the bug in question - is that stuff unusable or happens the bug only
>    if you do crazy creative stuff on files with 6+GB size or 1000k lines?
> And usually distros run bug tracking and (try to) get bugs fixed - in
> house or upstream.

no it don't - it depends in a braindead race include new software 
generations in alpha quality state instead wait until it become mature

and *because* this happens with pure OSS too your statement above is wrong

>> the *possible* long-term benefits are more time to invest because a
>> fixed income
>
> If the free software is the core business, it is not a problem (and
> these are not the companies in the discussion)

and even if it is *not* the core business it is not a problem as long as 
you get what you have now maintained for free - if there is a new killer 
feature and you are a commercial mail hoster and don't want to spent a 
small amount of money your talking about opensource is hypocrisy because 
the only thing you care about is get anything for free

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