folders not visible on copied mail folders

Mark Foley mfoley at ohprs.org
Thu Jul 19 07:29:35 EEST 2018


On Wed, 18 Jul 2018 07:23:06 +0200 Steffen Kaiser <skdovecot at inf.h-brs.de> wrote:
>
> On Tue, 17 Jul 2018, Mark Foley wrote:
> > On Tue, 17 Jul 2018 08:06:24 +0200 Steffen Kaiser <skdovecot at inf.h-brs.de> wrote:
> >>
> >> On Mon, 16 Jul 2018, Mark Foley wrote:
> >>
> >>> We had a user quit recently.  Three days ago I copied his entire Maildir folder to another user
> >>> to that user's Maildir/.JoesEmail.  I changed ownership and made the permission 'chmod -R
> >>> og-rwx .', just like all the other files/directories of the new owner.  This didn't work to show
> >>> the new folder.  Today, in his Thunderbird client, I subscribed to the 'JoesEmail' folder.  I
> >>> restarted dovecot and restarted Thunderbird.
> >>>
> >>> In Thunderbird, the 'JoesEmail' folder now shows, but it is empty and shows none of the
> >>> subordinate mail folders.  I ran 'doveadm index -u newowner JoesEmail' and
> >>> 'doveadm force-resync -u newowner JoesEmail'.  This didn't help.
> >>>
> >>> I did this once before with a previous user who quit and only changed ownership, no
> >>> subscribing, no doveadm, and that worked.
> >>>
> >>> What am I doing wrong?
> >>
> >> Your description might be interpreted one way or another, esp. "copied his
> >> entire Maildir folder ... to that user's Maildir/.JoesEmail".
> >>
> >> Also, it depends on how you have configured mail_location.
> >>
> >> If this means that you have:
> >> Maildir/.JoesEmail/{new,cur,tmp}
> >> Maildir/.JoesEmail/.mailbox/{new,cur,tmp}
> >> Maildir/.JoesEmail/.mailbox.submailbox/{new,cur,tmp}
> >> now, that will clash with the standard Maildir format:
> >> https://wiki2.dovecot.org/MailboxFormat/Maildir
> >>
> >> You would need to move the subfolders with a leading dot of .JoesEmail
> >> into:
> >> Maildir/.JoesEmail/{new,cur,tmp}
> >> Maildir/.JoesEmail.mailbox/{new,cur,tmp}
> >> Maildir/.JoesEmail.mailbox.submailbox/{new,cur,tmp}
> >>
> >> If you use :LAYOUT=fs to mail_location, .JoesEmail should spell JoesEmail
> >>
> >> Subscription is needed only, if the mail client "displays subscribed
> >> folders only" or does not "display all folders". The meaning of the
> >> setting varies from client to client.
> >>
> >> Another way would to keep the other account and share it via ACLs:
> >> https://wiki2.dovecot.org/SharedMailboxes/Shared
> >>
> >> Steffen Kaiser
> >
> > Steffen, thanks for your reply. I did have the copied folders as shown in your first example. I
> > changed that to what you show as the remedy. The target user's Maildir folder now has:
> >
> > drwx------  5 mpress domusers   4096 2017-06-28 20:07 .Deleted\ Messages.Junk/
> > drwx------  5 mpress domusers   4096 2018-07-16 23:22 .Delta\ Dental/
> > drwx------ 21 mpress domusers   4096 2018-07-17 16:48 .Dennis\ Email/
> > drwx------  5 mpress domusers   4096 2018-07-16 23:15 .Dennis\ Email.Deleted\ Items/
> > drwx------  5 mpress domusers   4096 2018-07-16 23:15 .Dennis\ Email.Deleted\ Items.Sent/
> > drwx------  5 mpress domusers   4096 2018-07-17 17:02 .Drafts/
> > drwx------  5 mpress domusers   4096 2018-07-17 16:35 .ESI/
> >
> > Where '.Dennis Email' is the folder for the old user. I copied the old user's 'Maildir/.Deleted Items'
> > and 'Maildir/.Deleted Items/Sent' to the target user's 'Maildir/.Dennis Email.Deleted Items'
> > and 'Maildir/.Deleted Items/Sent, respective. That how I understood what you advised. There are
> > more such subfolders, but I thought I'd try this one first.
>
> > However, still only the "Dennis Email" folder shows in the mail client, empty, no sub-folders
> > even though "Deleted Items.Sent/cur" has plenty of mail files (1522).
> >
> > I did try running 'doveadm index -u mpress "Dennis Email"', again; and restarting dovecot and
> > thunderbird again, but still nothing.
>
> First check if Dovecot thinks the folders are there:
>
> doveadm mailbox list -u "mpress" | grep Dennis

yes:

# doveadm mailbox list -u "mpress" | grep Dennis
Dennis Email
Dennis Email.Deleted Items
Dennis Email.Deleted Items.Sent

> Then make sure that each of the three folders contain the cur, new, tmp 
> subfolders.

They do:

drwx------ 2 mpress domusers 4096 2018-07-13 14:30 ./.Dennis\ Email/cur/
drwx------ 2 mpress domusers 4096 2018-07-13 14:30 ./.Dennis\ Email/new/
drwx------ 2 mpress domusers 4096 2018-07-13 14:30 ./.Dennis\ Email/tmp/
drwx------ 2 mpress domusers 2678784 2017-06-23 12:14 ./.Dennis\ Email.Deleted\ Items/cur/
drwx------ 2 mpress domusers 180224 2016-06-20 16:29 ./.Dennis\ Email.Deleted\ Items/new/
drwx------ 2 mpress domusers 16384 2016-06-20 16:29 ./.Dennis\ Email.Deleted\ Items/tmp/
drwx------ 2 mpress domusers 507904 2018-07-13 13:02 ./.Dennis\ Email.Deleted\ Items.Sent/cur/
drwx------ 2 mpress domusers 4096 2015-02-23 17:51 ./.Dennis\ Email.Deleted\ Items.Sent/new/
drwx------ 2 mpress domusers 4096 2018-07-13 13:02 ./.Dennis\ Email.Deleted\ Items.Sent/tmp/

> Does the Dovecot log contains something?

Nothing at all when searching for "Dennis Email"


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