Can't figure out why managesieve (pigeonhole) can't connect

[justina colmena ~biz]

On Tuesday, November 22, 2022 8:25:19 AM AKST, PGNet Dev wrote:
> first, confirm that you can connect/authenticate to Dovecot's 
> managesieve server without Roundcube in the picture.
>
> e.g., show the output of a successful 'openssl s_client ...' 
> sieve authentication session
>
>> Subject line says it all?  I am using Roundcube, and every 

I don't like the sounds of this discussion at all, and it's not because I 
don't want it to take place or because I don't want to be aware of it. 
"Security first" is and ought to be the absolute rule, but there's a 
pernicious kid sister attitude of «fausse naïveté» showing up everywhere 
with everything email-related.

Filtering and sieving are absolute necessities, too, for obvious reasons, 
but these authentication issues with half-baked development and 
here-be-dragons code showing up in official releases are very alarming.

We need to build much stronger defenses for our email online against 
nation-state political spammers as well as aggressive drug cartels 
promoting and compelling unethical & illegal "products" and "services" 
online.