Can't figure out why managesieve (pigeonhole) can't connect

[PGNet Dev]

-------- Original Message --------
From: justina colmena ~biz [mailto:justina at colmena.biz]
Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2022 at 12:44 PM EST
To: <dovecot at dovecot.org>
Subject: Can't figure out why managesieve (pigeonhole) can't connect

> On Tuesday, November 22, 2022 8:25:19 AM AKST, PGNet Dev wrote:
>> first, confirm that you can connect/authenticate to Dovecot's managesieve server without Roundcube in the picture.
>>
>> e.g., show the output of a successful 'openssl s_client ...' sieve authentication session
>>
>>> Subject line says it all?  I am using Roundcube, and every 
> 
> I don't like the sounds of this discussion at all, and it's not because I don't want it to take place or because I don't want to be aware of it. "Security first" is and ought to be the absolute rule, but there's a pernicious kid sister attitude of «fausse naïveté» showing up everywhere with everything email-related.
> 
> Filtering and sieving are absolute necessities, too, for obvious reasons, but these authentication issues with half-baked development and here-be-dragons code showing up in official releases are very alarming.
> 
> We need to build much stronger defenses for our email online against nation-state political spammers as well as aggressive drug cartels promoting and compelling unethical & illegal "products" and "services" online.


huh?