[Dovecot] dovecot help
Hello,
I have a mail server which I upgraded yesterday.
OLD: Redhat 9 sendmail (very old version) UW ipop3d usermin with readmail module for webmail access (very old version)
NEW: Fedora Core 6 sendmail 8.13.8 Usermin for webmail again dovecot 1.0.0
# /etc/dovecot.conf protocols: pop3 login_dir: /var/run/dovecot/login login_executable: /usr/libexec/dovecot/pop3-login mail_location: mbox:/home/%u/mail:INBOX=/var/spool/mail/%u mail_executable: /usr/libexec/dovecot/pop3 mail_plugin_dir: /usr/lib/dovecot/pop3 pop3_uidl_format: %08Xv%08Xu auth default: passdb: driver: pam userdb: driver: passwd
Everything is working great, besides a few glitches here and there. However, When accessing mailboxes via webmail (usermin) an email shows up with a subject of DON'T DELETE THIS MESSAGE -- FOLDER INTERNAL DATA. As far as I can tell, this is an IMAP folder directory portion of the mailbox file that should be hidden.
We don't use IMAP at all, and it is confusing people when they see this message that never was in their webmail before.
Anyone know how to hide, remove or otherwise fix?
Thank you in advance.
Andy
On Thu, 2007-06-28 at 12:43 -0700, Andy Fadich wrote:
Everything is working great, besides a few glitches here and there. However, When accessing mailboxes via webmail (usermin) an email shows up with a subject of DON'T DELETE THIS MESSAGE -- FOLDER INTERNAL DATA.
Do these messages have X-IMAP: header? They should. And if they do, they should not be visible with Dovecot v1.0.
As far as I can tell, this is an IMAP folder directory portion of the mailbox file that should be hidden.
Not really. They're created just the same with POP3. But in either case they shouldn't be visible to users.
The message does have the X-IMAP Header intact.(X-IMAP: 1183060687 0000000002) The email is hidden when using a pop3 client(doesn't download it), or telnetting an account and using the LIST command. The problem I am having is that within webmail (read mail module of usermin) it doesn't hide the message. I think Dovecot is doing everything correctly, but more so usermin is not registering that the message should be hidden, and I don't know how to fix it.
Andy
-----Original Message----- From: dovecot-bounces@dovecot.org [mailto:dovecot-bounces@dovecot.org] On Behalf Of Timo Sirainen Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2007 12:48 PM To: Andy Fadich Cc: dovecot@dovecot.org Subject: Re: [Dovecot] dovecot help
On Thu, 2007-06-28 at 12:43 -0700, Andy Fadich wrote:
Everything is working great, besides a few glitches here and there. However, When accessing mailboxes via webmail (usermin) an email shows up with a subject of DON'T DELETE THIS MESSAGE -- FOLDER INTERNAL DATA.
Do these messages have X-IMAP: header? They should. And if they do, they should not be visible with Dovecot v1.0.
As far as I can tell, this is an IMAP folder directory portion of the mailbox file that should be hidden.
Not really. They're created just the same with POP3. But in either case they shouldn't be visible to users.
On 28.6.2007, at 23.05, Andy Fadich wrote:
The message does have the X-IMAP Header intact.(X-IMAP: 1183060687 0000000002) The email is hidden when using a pop3 client(doesn't
download it), or telnetting an account and using the LIST command. The
problem I am having is that within webmail (read mail module of usermin) it
doesn't hide the message. I think Dovecot is doing everything correctly,
but more so usermin is not registering that the message should be hidden,
and I don't know how to fix it.
So your read mail module goes and reads the mbox file directly
instead of going through IMAP? Well, that's a problem then. There's
no way to turn off the "internal data" message. The same happens with
UW-IMAP and UW-POP3 too.
What do you mean "The same happens with UW-IMAP/POP3" Do you mean that internal data message is standard with both dovecot and ipop3d?
Ill go look for some answers on webmins website also. Thanks for the help.
Andy
-----Original Message----- From: dovecot-bounces@dovecot.org [mailto:dovecot-bounces@dovecot.org] On Behalf Of Timo Sirainen Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2007 1:12 PM To: Andy Fadich Cc: 'Dovecot Mailing List' Subject: Re: [Dovecot] dovecot help
On 28.6.2007, at 23.05, Andy Fadich wrote:
The message does have the X-IMAP Header intact.(X-IMAP: 1183060687 0000000002) The email is hidden when using a pop3 client(doesn't download it), or telnetting an account and using the LIST command. The
problem I am having is that within webmail (read mail module of usermin) it
doesn't hide the message. I think Dovecot is doing everything correctly,
but more so usermin is not registering that the message should be hidden,
and I don't know how to fix it.
So your read mail module goes and reads the mbox file directly
instead of going through IMAP? Well, that's a problem then. There's
no way to turn off the "internal data" message. The same happens with
UW-IMAP and UW-POP3 too.
Andy Fadich spake the following on 6/28/2007 3:27 PM:
What do you mean "The same happens with UW-IMAP/POP3" Do you mean that internal data message is standard with both dovecot and ipop3d?
Ill go look for some answers on webmins website also. Thanks for the help.
Andy That is definitely the problem. Usermin reads the mail files directly. So does Openwebmail, neomail, and some of the older early webmail clients. Dovecot won't like it because of its index files. UWImap worked because it kept its markups inside the mbox along with the message. Squirrelmail is included with Core 6 and is IMAP4 compliant, so it won't mess with the indexing on the server. It will work much better than usermin as a mail client.
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On Thu, 2007-06-28 at 15:49 -0700, Scott Silva wrote:
Andy Fadich spake the following on 6/28/2007 3:27 PM:
What do you mean "The same happens with UW-IMAP/POP3" Do you mean that internal data message is standard with both dovecot and ipop3d?
Ill go look for some answers on webmins website also. Thanks for the help.
Andy That is definitely the problem. Usermin reads the mail files directly. So does Openwebmail, neomail, and some of the older early webmail clients. Dovecot won't like it because of its index files. UWImap worked because it kept its markups inside the mbox along with the message.
It shouldn't be a problem if other programs modify mbox files, as long as they use proper locking. The index files get updated automatically.
On 6/28/2007, Andy Fadich (andyf@genextllc.com) wrote:
The message does have the X-IMAP Header intact.(X-IMAP: 1183060687 0000000002) The email is hidden when using a pop3 client(doesn't download it), or telnetting an account and using the LIST command. The problem I am having is that within webmail (read mail module of usermin) it doesn't hide the message. I think Dovecot is doing everything correctly, but more so usermin is not registering that the message should be hidden, and I don't know how to fix it.
File a bug against usermin?
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Best regards,
Charles
Here is the fix to my problem.
"You need to set the ' Mail storage format for Inbox' to 'Remote POP3 server' or 'Remote IMAP server'."
I had it reading the file directly ("sendmail style single file mbox") Once I changed that setting it stopped showing the email.
Thanks for the help guys!
-----Original Message----- From: dovecot-bounces@dovecot.org [mailto:dovecot-bounces@dovecot.org] On Behalf Of Charles Marcus Sent: Friday, June 29, 2007 4:13 AM To: 'Dovecot Mailing List' Subject: Re: [Dovecot] dovecot help
On 6/28/2007, Andy Fadich (andyf@genextllc.com) wrote:
The message does have the X-IMAP Header intact.(X-IMAP: 1183060687 0000000002) The email is hidden when using a pop3 client(doesn't download it), or telnetting an account and using the LIST command. The problem I am having is that within webmail (read mail module of usermin) it doesn't hide the message. I think Dovecot is doing everything correctly, but more so usermin is not registering that the message should be hidden, and I don't know how to fix it.
File a bug against usermin?
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Best regards,
Charles
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Andy Fadich
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Charles Marcus
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Scott Silva
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Timo Sirainen