[Dovecot] BEWARE: you might be supporting the lists owner!!

[Tamsy]

Linda Walsh wrote the following on 18.05.2012 10:32:
> Jeff Kletsky wrote:
>> Even with "good intent" the message in question is clearly in 
>> violation of CAN-SPAM and Cal. Bus. Prof. Code Sec. 17529, of which 
>> the sender was informed of when my server was accessed.
> ---
>    And you have proof of this?  That they received notice?  I assume 
> you have
> their signature?  Computers talking in the night doesn't count as 
> 'proof'.
>
>
>> It was very clearly an "electronic mail message the primary purpose 
>> of which is the commercial advertisement or promotion of a commercial 
>> product or service." 
> ===
>    Really?  Dovecot is a commercial venture?  I thought it was free 
> software.
> Someone, with the personal permission of the list owner was allowed to 
> mention that they would be willing to offer support for this 
> product?   Are you pissed because they didn't offer it for free?  This 
> is a list about dovecot -- no where does it say it will be private nor 
> that the email addresses on this list are protected from spam.  
> Dovecot isn't a private company.
>    It doesn't matter if it was good or bad intent.  You being on this 
> list
> of your own free will establishes a relationship of the sort that, if 
> pre-existing, permits commercial offers.  If you don't want that ever 
> again, otherwise by remaining on the list, you give some permission 
> for occasional
> messages that might be construed to offering services for money, that are
> approved by the list owner.
>
>    If it exceeds anyone's tolerance, including mine, I would believe 
> any of us would have the same right to leave.  I don't think the list 
> owner would want to abuse his position and cause wholesale 
> departures.  OTOH, I don't think this
> rises anywhere near to the level of even the most minor offense.
>
>    Personally, I found this discussion *about* the issue to have 
> generated more traffic than all the spam I've gotten from this list in 
> the past 6 months.
>
>    So -- guess what?   I don't care.
>
>    You might want to reconsider your demands on the list owner who has 
> put together some fine quality software for your use -- for free.   
> Otherwise,  you risk really looking like a completely self-centered 
> pompous ass.
> And note,  this is based on current traffic levels from this list of 
> such email (which are way exceeded by the people talking about it -- 
> so it's completely irrational to argue about it occurring or not when 
> the people complaining about it have generated over 10 times as much 
> traffic in a few days.  As for the spam
> levels from here.. My spam filters regularly take out about 30 spam 
> messages/day
> (based on the 1200+ messages in the past 40 days in my spam folder).  
> Like 1
> email from a list I subscribe to is gonna likely even be noticed by 
> me??  Unlikely.
>
> (normally a lurker, but someone who can't tolerate intolerance!  ;-)  
> )...
>
>
>
Well said Linda!

All that noise because of one mail offering some paid support is so 
unnecessary!

The Delete-Button is just one click away and in case something like this 
happens too often what for do we have this wonderful Sieve to this great 
Dovecot-software? ;-)