JMAP support in Dovecot

[Tanstaafl]

Thanks for chiming in Bron!

I'm very interested in JMAP as you can see, but I'm also very curious -
do you have any blog pages dedicated to the user experience vs standard
IMAP? How it differs - and most importantly if it is truly better, and
if so, how and why?

I'd also love to read about actual user experiences - how about a
collection of comments from your users?

Thanks again,

Charles

p.s. Even though I've always hosted my own, I'm very tempted to sign up
for a paid account to see for myself.



On Tue May 28 2019 03:49:25 GMT-0400 (Eastern Standard Time), Bron
Gondwana via dovecot <dovecot at dovecot.org> wrote:
> On Wed, May 22, 2019, at 23:43, Tanstaafl via dovecot wrote:
>> On Wed May 22 2019 05:44:59 GMT-0400 (Eastern Standard Time), Aki Tuomi
>> via dovecot <dovecot at dovecot.org> wrote:
>> > Unfortunately we have not been able to work on this much, but also the
>> > JMAP spec was until very recently still being worked. We have open
>> > dialogue with the Thunderbird people, they haven't so far indicated any
>> > pressing need for JMAP in Dovecot.
>> > 
>> > This said, JMAP is still very much in our roadmap. Perhaps just not as
>> > close as I initially thought.
>
> Obviously I'd love to help out in any way possible here!  We're very
> keen to see JMAP support in Dovecot to encourage others to move
> towards it as well.
>
>> Thanks Aki - no pressing need because of the old chicken/egg problem I
>> guess...
>>
>> That said, a few tidbits...
>>
>> The Thunderbird Devs are using Topicbox for discussing Thunderbird UI
>> development, and Topicbox is built directly on top of JMAP for the email
>> integration (I'm not sure they even knew this until I told them
>> yesterday):
>>
>> From: https://fastmail.blog/2018/12/27/jmap-is-on-the-home-straight/
>>
>> "But enough about the software, how about the experience! When we
>> created our brand new Topicbox product, we built directly on top of JMAP
>> for the email. We also used JMAP-inspired APIs for the rest of the
>> product experience, so Topicbox’s early users have been on JMAP for over
>> a year now."
>>
>> Lastly, Fastmail is now rolling it out - 30% of their userbase is on
>> JMAP, and all new users are automatically on it. Cyrus also provides
>> experimental JMAP support in their development snapshots.
>
> Actually, 99% of our user base has been on JMAP for about 4 months
> now!  The one remaining percent was users with the old version of our
> mobile apps, and they're being cut off next month.
>
> As for JMAP mail and JMAP core - they're currently with the RFC editor
> for the final round of edits - they should have assigned RFC numbers
> in the next few weeks I would imagine.  There will be some minor
> editorial polish, but the way it works is entirely stable now, there
> won't be more changes.
>
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-jmap-core/
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-jmap-mail/
>
> We're planning to have full support for everything in those specs into
> Cyrus IMAP version 3.2 as well.  Right now there's a couple of gaps
> that we either don't use at FastMail or are papering around with our
> perl middleware.  You can see the remaining tasks here as we progress:
>
> https://github.com/cyrusimap/cyrus-imapd/labels/3.2
>
> Cheers,
>
> Bron.
>
>
>
> -- 
>   Bron Gondwana
>   brong at fastmail.fm
>
>

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