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Re: [Dovecot] qpopper UIDLs and migrating to dovecot/maildir
by Paul Vatta 04 Sep '05

04 Sep '05

Hi Chris, We migrated to Dovecot from Qpopper/UW-IMAP in July. We previously looked at altering the Dovecot code, client-side duplicate email cleanup utilities (for Eudora), and enforcing "download-then-delete from the server" prior to the migration. We got around the "downloading of previously downloaded emails" problem by moving all previously downloaded emails to a new folder called "ConvertedMail" during the conversion process from mbox (Qpopper) to maildir. This assumes you're going to maildir though. The benefit in this is that the POP client only retrieves email from th inbox folder, and after conversion, this will mean only new emails. If the POP client's previous download of older email dissappeared (for whatever reason), a Web Mail client accessing the mailstore via IMAP would allow access to the ConvertedMail folder. Regards, Paul

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[Dovecot] login: Missing Protocol from server name 'imap'
by Phil Bettinson 03 Sep '05

03 Sep '05

Hello All (possibly again) I did send a messge earlier, but it may have been eaten by the mail system. I've now managed to get dovecot started, and I'm now getting "Missing protocol from server name 'imap'" This is somewhat confusing. Does it mean that I have somewhere called my server imap? or is it talking about it missing a protocol called imap? if it's meant to be "missing protocol imap definition" or somesuch, I have filled that out, but can't for the life of me figure out what the error message is actually trying to tell me! I'm running dovecot alpha1 on RedHat as3. I have the feeling I've been staring at the problem for too long, and somone will just say "have you tried this!", but it's worth a shot. Thanks in advance Phil

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[Dovecot] qpopper UIDLs and migrating to dovecot/maildir
by grant beattie 03 Sep '05

03 Sep '05

hi all, I am hoping to convert a 350K user qpopper installation using mbox to dovecot and maildir (pop3 only). many of the users "leave mail on server", and qpopper's UIDL format isn't (yet) supported by dovecot. since the UIDLs have been written by qpoppper to the existing mbox files (and will be preserved when the mboxes are converted to maildir) it would be possible to do this seamlessly if dovecot could read the UIDLs from the messages and populate the index files as needed. is anything like this already possible? it doesn't matter what UIDLs new messages get, since they would never have been downloaded by the user via qpopper. any ideas would be appreciated. grant.

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[Dovecot] "stable" v. "alpha"
by Ben Beuchler 03 Sep '05

03 Sep '05

Is "alpha" the new "-stable"? Should I switch? Gracias! -Ben

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RE: [Dovecot] Purge / Delete Problem using IMAP
by A Ve 03 Sep '05

03 Sep '05

> On Fri, 2005-09-02 at 23:46 -0400, Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams wrote: > > On Sat, 3 Sep 2005, A Ve wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > I am using dovecot 0.99.14 RPM on a Fedore Core 4 Server. > > > Everything was running fine for weeks (IMAP), and 2 days ago I was > > > not able to delete/purge any Mail in INBOX. I am > > > using Outlook 2003 as an IMAP-Client. > > > > Okay, this is *really* weird. I've been having the same > > problem here. Now I'm beginning to suspect that it might be > > distro-specific. > > Confirmed. > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=167043 Right. :-| Fixed it disableing selinux totally and removing it ! This is not the first time, that selinux is disturbing a daemon to work (http, postfix ...) Thanks for hint, this solved my problem ... Regards, AVE.

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[Dovecot] Purge / Delete Problem using IMAP
by A Ve 03 Sep '05

03 Sep '05

Hi, I am using dovecot 0.99.14 RPM on a Fedore Core 4 Server. Everything was running fine for weeks (IMAP), and 2 days ago I was not able to delete/purge any Mail in INBOX. I am using Outlook 2003 as an IMAP-Client. I tried to delete/purge the Inbox with other mail-clients (Mozilla Thunderbird, Mulberry) too, same effect: I can read mail, I can copy them by drag-n-drop to a local Client-Folder (eg: Outlook) , but I can delete them. Strange enough, the mails are marked as read, but when I login again, all Mail are marked as new/unread ! When I log to the node, and start mutt (which is using the spool-file /var/spool/mail/username), then I am able to read-n-delete all Mails... The File Permisson of the File: 755, Owner: Username, Group: Mail. Did I miss something ? How can this stop working from one day to another ? I seems to me, like the INBOX is not writable to me ... From the UNIX Side, it is ... :-/ Any Comment/Feedback would be helpfull. This is really strange. Regards, AVE.

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[Dovecot] string expansion *in* dovecot config?
by OpenMacNews 02 Sep '05

02 Sep '05

hi all, is it possible to define/use 'MACROS' (string expansion, ala Exim) in dovecot's config file? specifically, e.g. -- rather than: login_executable = /some/crazy/path/to/dovecot/libexec/dovecot/imap-login i'd LIKE to do something like MY_PATH = /some/crazy/path/to login_executable = MY_PATH/dovecot/libexec/dovecot/imap-login i'm reading the wiki docs, and it's just not obvious to me ... thanks! richard

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[Dovecot] Weird internaldate behavior with 1.0-test80 and mbox folder
by Jon Roma 02 Sep '05

02 Sep '05

Has anyone else encountered weird date behavior with mbox-style folders? I am nearly ready to bite the bullet and convert my UW imap hierarchy (which is in mbx format) to Dovecot. In so doing, I need to convert each UW-specific mbx-format mailboxes to the more portable mbox format, which Dovecot can read. (This is done with the 'mbxcvt' utility that's part of UW.) I am then planning to copy those mbox-format folders into a staging area in a directory I've defined to Dovecot as a mbox-format namespace. The plan was then to use my normal GUI to reorganize my old data and copy it into proper maildir folders into Dovecot's default namespace. Since I'm naturally paranoid, I did a dry run of a couple folders first and discovered a rather strange anomaly -- all the mail in the converted folder is displayed by Dovecot with a timestamp exactly 200 minutes (3 hours 20 minutes) into the future! Investigating this via telneting to the respective IMAP ports shows that UW imapd shows the correct timestamp both in the original mbx-format folder and the converted mbox-format folder -- so it appears that Dovecot is skewing the time. This doesn't look like a timezone issue since 200 minutes ahead from CST6CDT would be a pretty strange timezone -- not even Newfoundland has this odd a TZ value! :) (For the curious, Newfoundland is a Canadian province whose time zone is TZ=NST3:30NDT, therefore being a half-hour "off" from the rest of North America.) I have distilled this into a degenerate case of a single folder with a single message and can reproduce. As mentioned, I am running 1.0-test80. My platform is AIX 5.1. I created the test by sending a message to myself using date | mail -s "Test at $(date)" roma(a)uiuc.edu and using my MUA (Mulberry) to file it into the test folder, which defaults to mbx format in UW's namespace. Here's what UW shows when I select/fetch the "original" message: * namespace * NAMESPACE (("" "/")("#mhinbox" NIL)("#mh/" "/")) (("~" "/")) (("#shared/" "/")("#ftp/" "/")("#news." ".")("#public/" "/")) * OK NAMESPACE completed * select "~/Test" * 1 EXISTS * 0 RECENT * OK [UIDVALIDITY 1124811965] UID validity status * OK [UIDNEXT 3] Predicted next UID * FLAGS (\Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Draft \Seen) * OK [PERMANENTFLAGS (\* \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Draft \Seen)] Permanent flags * OK [READ-WRITE] SELECT completed * fetch 1 internaldate * 1 FETCH (INTERNALDATE "23-Aug-2005 11:16:37 -0500") * OK FETCH completed * fetch 1 envelope * 1 FETCH (ENVELOPE ("Tue, 23 Aug 2005 11:16:30 -0500" "Test at Tue Aug 23 11:16:29 CDT 2005" (("Jon Roma" NIL "roma" "zippy.cso.uiuc.edu")) (("Jon Roma" NIL "roma" "zippy.cso.uiuc.edu")) (("Jon Roma" NIL "roma" "zippy.cso.uiuc.edu")) ((NIL NIL "roma" "uiuc.edu")) NIL NIL NIL "<200508231616.j7NGGUrc022618(a)zippy.cso.uiuc.edu>")) * OK FETCH completed Next I use the UW 'mbxcvt' to convert the folder, leaving it in mbox format in a different folder (~/Test-mbox) -- still in UW's namespace. Here's what the telnet connection shows: * namespace * NAMESPACE (("" "/")("#mhinbox" NIL)("#mh/" "/")) (("~" "/")) (("#shared/" "/")("#ftp/" "/")("#news." ".")("#public/" "/")) * OK NAMESPACE completed * select "~/Test-mbox" * 1 EXISTS * 1 RECENT * OK [UIDVALIDITY 1124813840] UID validity status * OK [UIDNEXT 2] Predicted next UID * FLAGS (\Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Draft \Seen) * OK [PERMANENTFLAGS (\* \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Draft \Seen)] Permanent flags * OK [READ-WRITE] SELECT completed * fetch 1 internaldate * 1 FETCH (INTERNALDATE "23-Aug-2005 11:16:37 -0500") * OK FETCH completed * fetch 1 envelope * 1 FETCH (ENVELOPE ("Tue, 23 Aug 2005 11:16:30 -0500" "Test at Tue Aug 23 11:16:29 CDT 2005" (("Jon Roma" NIL "roma" "zippy.cso.uiuc.edu")) (("Jon Roma" NIL "roma" "zippy.cso.uiuc.edu")) (("Jon Roma" NIL "roma" "zippy.cso.uiuc.edu")) ((NIL NIL "roma" "uiuc.edu")) NIL NIL NIL "<200508231616.j7NGGUrc022618(a)zippy.cso.uiuc.edu>")) * OK FETCH completed Now, copying the same mbox-format folder into dovecot's namespace and telneting to my Dovecot port gives the following: * namespace * NAMESPACE (("" ".")("Stage/" "/")) NIL NIL * OK Namespace completed. * select "Stage/Test" * FLAGS (\Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen \Draft) * OK [PERMANENTFLAGS (\Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen \Draft \*)] Flags permitted. * 1 EXISTS * 1 RECENT * OK [UIDVALIDITY 1124815188] UIDs valid * OK [UIDNEXT 2] Predicted next UID * OK [READ-WRITE] Select completed. * fetch 1 internaldate * 1 FETCH (INTERNALDATE "23-Aug-2005 14:36:37 -0500") * OK Fetch completed. * fetch 1 envelope * 1 FETCH (ENVELOPE ("Tue, 23 Aug 2005 11:16:30 -0500" "Test at Tue Aug 23 11:16:29 CDT 2005" (("Jon Roma" NIL "roma" "zippy.cso.uiuc.edu")) (("Jon Roma" NIL "roma" "zippy.cso.uiuc.edu")) (("Jon Roma" NIL "roma" "zippy.cso.uiuc.edu")) ((NIL NIL "roma" "uiuc.edu")) NIL NIL NIL "<200508231616.j7NGGUrc022618(a)zippy.cso.uiuc.edu>")) * OK Fetch completed. Notice the "internaldate" response. Dovecot reports the correct time zone, but the internaldate value is 200 minutes ahead of what it should be!!! This is an interesting mystery; I seem to be living three hours and 20 minutes in the future. I've attached the entire contents of the mbox-style mailbox that Dovecot misinterprets. Thanks in advance. >From MAILER-DAEMON Tue Aug 23 11:39:48 2005Date: 23 Aug 2005 11:39:48 -0500 From: Mail System Internal Data <MAILER-DAEMON(a)zippy.cso.uiuc.edu> Subject: DON'T DELETE THIS MESSAGE -- FOLDER INTERNAL DATA X-IMAP: 1124815188 0000000001 Status: RO This text is part of the internal format of your mail folder, and is not a real message. It is created automatically by the mail system software. If deleted, important folder data will be lost, and it will be re-created with the data reset to initial values. >From roma(a)zippy.cso.uiuc.edu Tue Aug 23 11:16:37 2005 -0500 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: Received: via dmail-4.1(10) for +INBOX; Tue, 23 Aug 2005 11:16:37 -0500 (CDT) Return-Path: <roma(a)zippy.cso.uiuc.edu> Received: from zippy.cso.uiuc.edu (loopback [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.cso.uiuc.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j7NGGUCQ027294 for <roma(a)uiuc.edu>; Tue, 23 Aug 2005 11:16:30 -0500 Received: (from roma@localhost) by zippy.cso.uiuc.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id j7NGGUrc022618 for roma(a)uiuc.edu; Tue, 23 Aug 2005 11:16:30 -0500 Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2005 11:16:30 -0500 From: Jon Roma <roma(a)zippy.cso.uiuc.edu> Message-Id: <200508231616.j7NGGUrc022618(a)zippy.cso.uiuc.edu> To: roma(a)uiuc.edu Subject: Test at Tue Aug 23 11:16:29 CDT 2005 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.1 (2004-10-22) on zippy.cso.uiuc.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.9 required=2.5 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.0.1 X-UID: 1 Tue Aug 23 11:16:29 CDT 2005

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[Dovecot] (no subject)
by Phillip Needham 02 Sep '05

02 Sep '05

I am trying to get away from courier imap because it is flaky the way it uses FAM (or gamin in my case), and the developers seem to have a chip on their collective shoulder, and it is too complex. I found dovecot because it is ships with CentOS 4 (ie Red Hat Enterprise 4). It looks like just what I need: simple, fast. But I can't use it! I can't authenticate. If any of these statements were untrue, I would use it happily: o it doesn't support simple bind authentication against LDAP o I don't want to make passwords readable, and this version (0.99.14) doesn't support SSHA anyway o it won't talk to the saslauthd I already have configured o I can't find how to implement a new auth module for dovecot I am wondering why, in the quest to fill a niche with a simple, fast, secure IMAP server, the authors felt the need to re-implement a robust and well-tested infrastructure (saslauthd) with a less-featureful and untested one?

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[Dovecot] Dovecot imap with Postfix and using Thunderbird as client
by Ben Ware 01 Sep '05

01 Sep '05

Hi, I just recently installed dovecot, and I am having the following problem: If I send an email to my account on this new machine, I can log in via SSH and use the unix mail command, and instantly my email is visible. If I turn on Thunderbird, it will show my new message. If Thunderbird was already on and had already checked the mailbox, even if I click on get new mail for that specific mailbox, the new mail does not show up until I restart thunderbird. Is there something that I have set wrong in the config files that is preventing the IMAP part of dovecot from refreshing the messages quickly for me to see? I dont see anything in the log files at all except for it showing me logging in. Thanks, Ben

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