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[Dovecot] Sharing nested folders / maildir variations?
by SeattleServer.com 04 Jun '07

04 Jun '07

Hey all, So I've got a shared namespace in dovecot where users can, via a custom control panel, share their folders into (which creates a symlink) in order to allow anyone on their domain to access it. I store mail in maildir. The issue is that when people share folders, they expect that when they make subfolders, those are automatically shared as they are contained within it. According to the Maildir++ specification, "Can folders have subfolders, defined in a recursive fashion? The answer is no. If you want to have a client with a hierarchy of folders, emulate it. Pick a hierarchy separator character, say ":". Then, folder foo/bar is subdirectory .foo:bar." It says some other stupid things too though that nobody seems to actually follow, and I've never actually seen anything but a '.' used as the delimiter... The same is true in IMAPdir: "As with Maildir++, submailboxes can not be represented in a recursive fashion in the file system. The mailbox' representation name will contain the soft hierarchy delimiter character dot '.', and all mailboxes must reside in the same root level directory." I don't understand the reasoning behind avoiding recursion, honestly. If somebody wants to enlighten me on that one, it would be appreciated. i.e. instead of: .Folder/{cur,new,tmp} .Folder.SubFolder1/{cur,new,tmp} .Folder.SubFolder1.foo/{cur,new,tmp} .Folder.SubFolder1.bar/{cur,new,tmp} .Folder.SubFolder2/{cur,new,tmp} We'd have: .Folder/{cur,new,tmp} .Folder/.SubFolder1/{cur,new,tmp} .Folder/.SubFolder1/{cur,new,tmp} .Folder/.SubFolder1/.foo/{cur,new,tmp} .Folder/.SubFolder1/.bar/{cur,new,tmp} .Folder/.SubFolder2/{cur,new,tmp} That would both solve my issue and be a lot more convenient when browsing/scripting around maildirs (i.e. "cd ../.foo" vs "cd ../.Folder.Subfolder1.foo"). It seems to me that this would be a really easy thing to add support for via the config option used to choose between maildir/mbox/dbox. Call it rmaildir or somesuch... Thoughts? Cheers, -- Casey Allen Shobe | mailto:casey@shobe.info | http://casey.shobe.info SeattleServer.com, inc. | http://seattleserver.com

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[Dovecot] Dovecot waking every 50ms when doing nothing
by Ross Burton 04 Jun '07

04 Jun '07

Hi, My laptop runs a local IMAP server so that I'm immune from breaking my mail client, and when playing around with powertop I discovered that Dovecot (in particular imap-login) wakes up every 1000ms and then every 50ms even when no clients are connected. A bit of stracing shows this: gettimeofday({1180875699, 667917}, NULL) = 0 <0.000010> poll([{fd=7, events=POLLIN|POLLPRI|POLLERR|POLLHUP|POLLNVAL}, {fd=10, events=POLLIN|POLLPRI|POLLERR|POLLHUP|POLLNVAL}, {fd=3, events=POLLIN|POLLPRI|POLLERR|POLLHUP|POLLNVAL}, {fd=0, events=POLLIN|POLLPRI|POLLERR|POLLHUP|POLLNVAL}, {fd=1, events=POLLIN|POLLPRI|POLLERR|POLLHUP|POLLNVAL}], 5, 999) = 0 <0.999595> gettimeofday({1180875700, 667627}, {4294967236, 0}) = 0 <0.000007> gettimeofday({1180875700, 667670}, NULL) = 0 <0.000007> poll([{fd=7, events=POLLIN|POLLPRI|POLLERR|POLLHUP|POLLNVAL}, {fd=10, events=POLLIN|POLLPRI|POLLERR|POLLHUP|POLLNVAL}, {fd=3, events=POLLIN|POLLPRI|POLLERR|POLLHUP|POLLNVAL}, {fd=0, events=POLLIN|POLLPRI|POLLERR|POLLHUP|POLLNVAL}, {fd=1, events=POLLIN|POLLPRI|POLLERR|POLLHUP|POLLNVAL}], 5, 0) = 0 <0.000006> gettimeofday({1180875700, 667762}, {4294967236, 0}) = 0 <0.000007> gettimeofday({1180875700, 667801}, NULL) = 0 <0.000006> poll([{fd=7, events=POLLIN|POLLPRI|POLLERR|POLLHUP|POLLNVAL}, {fd=10, events=POLLIN|POLLPRI|POLLERR|POLLHUP|POLLNVAL}, {fd=3, events=POLLIN|POLLPRI|POLLERR|POLLHUP|POLLNVAL}, {fd=0, events=POLLIN|POLLPRI|POLLERR|POLLHUP|POLLNVAL}, {fd=1, events=POLLIN|POLLPRI|POLLERR|POLLHUP|POLLNVAL}], 5, 999) = 0 <0.999699> gettimeofday({1180875701, 667638}, {4294967236, 0}) = 0 <0.000010> Is there any reason why dovecot wakes up so frequently even when there is apparently nothing to do? If it is to perform some routine task, can this timeout be extended? There are many daemons on my machine (lighttpd is another) that are waking up every second when nothing is happening, and each of these is contributing to waking the CPU from sleep. Cheers, Ross -- Ross Burton mail: ross(a)burtonini.com jabber: ross(a)burtonini.com www: http://www.burtonini.com./ PGP Fingerprint: 1A21 F5B0 D8D0 CFE3 81D4 E25A 2D09 E447 D0B4 33DF

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[Dovecot] frequent index rebuilds versus disabled indexes
by Justin McAleer 04 Jun '07

04 Jun '07

Ok, here's the short and sweet version of my dilemma. I have a group of servers mounting a shared NFS device to hold mail data for many different domains. Is it worth the load balancing management nightmare of setting up dedicating smtp, pop, and imap to one server (failing over to another in the group if the server goes down) to keep indexes on local disk? It's very tempting to just disable indexes and not worry about which server a user hits, and considering the vast majority of our 170,000 accounts only have about a 20MB quota, I'm not sure indexes will help that many users. Although, I guess I would need to work out something for the few huge accounts we do have.

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[Dovecot] Quota handling - v2 - updated FR
by Charles Marcus 04 Jun '07

04 Jun '07

This revised proposal for a Feature Request is the result of my desire to implement quotas, but not have the attendant headaches that inevitably accompany its implementation. Ralf Hildebrandt wrote: > I have to face it, my users are retards: Is there any other kind of user? ;) <snip> > Thus I need a feature in dovecot that will tell them via email: > > Level1: "You ALMOST exceeded your quota, you're at 90% now" > Level2: "You're very close to exceededin your quota, you're at 95% > now" > Level3: "Would you please clean up now? You're at 99% now" What I'd *really* like to see implemented is something along the lines outlined below - but of course, this will depend entirely on whether or not Timo thinks it is doable - or desirable... I'm thinking this would be best handled by the Quota plug-in - either as part of the current one, or as a separate/different one... *** 1. Have a 'special' user-specific folder (by special, I mean like the Drafts, Sent, Templates folders) that dovecot controls. For purposes of this FR, call it the 'over-quota' folder. Question: could the .tmp folder be used for this? No sense in reinventing the wheel if necessary... and then if someone migrated from dovecot to something else, and messages were left in there from an over-quota condition, that other solution would most likely just move these to .new the first time it ran, right? Or, possibly, could dovecot create a new one maybe, .oqt (for over-quota), and store the queued messages there until the over-quota condition was rectified? Anyway, the main thing is, this folder should be essentially hidden from the user so they do *not* have access to it, and should temporarily hold messages that come in that are unable to be delivered due to an over-quota condition. *** 2. Make dovecot aware of and use a special 'Quota Status' message that it uses to inform a user that they are over quota. This message should be able to be customized, with variables (like, for example, it should list the messages that are currently being prevented from being moved to the Inbox - including, optionally, the Subject, the sender, date/time, attachments, size, etc - as well as provide general quota information (ie, how close to or over quota they are, and how much they'd need to delete or move to Local Folders to allow delivery of all of the messages being held), and lastly, any custom information the System Admin wanted to provide - like, maybe, specific instructions for how to move messages to Local Folders, how to request additional storage allowance, etc. *** 3. When user is over quota, have LDA deliver to the folder referenced above (# 1) - (yes, accept the message for final delivery from the sending mta), and then update the Quota Status message and move it to the Inbox. Optionally, a bounce/notification could be generated to the sender, informing them that their message is being 'held in queue' or something to that effect, due to the recipient being over-quota. *** 4. Once the user deletes enough mail to come back under quota, dovecot would then move messages from the 'over-quota' folder to his Inbox. Ok, again, am willing to hear *valid* reasons how/why this is a terrible idea... :) -- Best regards, Charles

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[Dovecot] delivery and quota question
by Arkadiusz Miskiewicz 04 Jun '07

04 Jun '07

Hi, I'm considering using delivery for delivering emails. The question is about quota. Does delivery check quota for single maildir or for entire collection of user folders? Example: /var/mail/user/{new,cur,tmp} /var/mail/user/.Some_Folder/{new,cur,tmp} /var/mail/user/.Some_Other_Folder/{new,cur,tmp} Can I somehow get deliver checking size for all these folders? I need quota per user not per folder. -- Arkadiusz Miśkiewicz PLD/Linux Team arekm / maven.pl http://ftp.pld-linux.org/

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[Dovecot] Simple questions about Quota
by Venilton Junior 04 Jun '07

04 Jun '07

Hi folks, hope that get some help for some doubts :P I've configured dovecot in a clustered environment 3 X HP Proliant DL380+RHEL ES 4.0+EVA4000+GFS. Everything is working great. But, when I putted this cluster on production, I had some problems with quota+ldap in my dovecot. Here follows my configuration: /etc/dovecot.conf last_valid_gid = 101 maildir_copy_with_hardlinks = no login_greeting = Internet ready. disable_plaintext_auth = no auth_default_realm =domain.com.br protocol imap { mail_plugins = imap_quota quota } protocol lda { postmaster_address = postmaster(a)domain.com.br <mailto:postmaster@domain.com.br> mail_plugins = quota } protocol pop3 { pop3_uidl_format = %08Xu%08Xv mail_plugins = quota } auth default_with_listener { mechanisms = plain login userdb ldap { args = /etc/dovecot-ldap.conf } passdb ldap { args = /etc/dovecot-ldap.conf } socket listen { master { path = /var/run/dovecot/auth-master mode = 0660 user = vmail group = mail } } } plugin { quota = maildir } /etc/dovecot-ldap.conf ... user_attrs = mail,homeDirectory,,,,quota=quota=maildir:storage user_filter = (&(objectClass=VirtualMailAccount)(mail=%u)(accountActive=TRUE)(delete=F ALSE)) I'm heaving heavy load of e-mails in this environment, so this problem started to happen: Almost all users have 100MB of quota, that's ok for us and we are storing 102400 at our ldap. But, when I put this configuration working on, all clients receive overquota messages. If I'm using quota information in my ldap server, do I have to use this option in my dovecot.conf file? plugin { quota = maildir } Tnx for any help and/or tips. Regards, Venilton C. Junior HP Certified Professional Sercompe Computadores Ltda. Office: +55 47 3431-9700 Fax: +55 47 3431-9747 Mobile: +55 47 9653-5872 www.sercompe.com.br <http://www.sercompe.com.br/>

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[Dovecot] Dovecot and Seamonkey/Mozilla "delete attachment"
by Bryce Nesbitt 04 Jun '07

04 Jun '07

I'm having persistent trouble deleting larger attachments from messages in Mozilla/Seamonkey mail, and I'm thinking it may be related to Dovecot. A bug report is over at https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=381759 I do not have the version number of Dovecot available, unless you know how to get it from the IMAP prompt: > telnet idiom.com 143 Trying 216.240.32.1... Connected to idiom.com. Escape character is '^]'. * OK Dovecot ready. How can I track this down more? Is anyone using Seamonkey and this particular new feature (delete the attachment, but keep the message body intact)?

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[Dovecot] Error: no authentication failed
by gaoqiang.qian＠nokia.com 04 Jun '07

04 Jun '07

Hi, I have installed the dovecot on my redhat linux host. But when I log in with dovecot/test I got Error: no authentication failed after I got ok dovecot ready when I connect to local host. dovecot/test was set in the password.dovecot file. But I do not know how can I use this username and password in the configuration file. Could anyone give me a hand to let me know how to configurate the username and password for login. Thanks

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[Dovecot] Overriding IMAP commands
by Tony Tsang 04 Jun '07

04 Jun '07

Hi all, I am writing a plugin to override some built-in imap commands. But when client logs out, imap segfaults during unregistering commands. What is the correct procedure for overriding imap commands in dovecot? Thanks. Tony Tsang.

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Re: [Dovecot] Namespace Problems
by Kenny Dail 04 Jun '07

04 Jun '07

> Hi all, > > after an update from dovecot beta version to 1.0.0.-1 today morning I > had different effects: > thunderbird-, kmail-, Apple-clients, pine and squirrelmail could > receive email correct with imaps. But not MSOutlook!!! > Varying the namespace configurations in dovecot.conf I got different > results with MSOutlook working but with thunderbird, squirrelmail etc. > all folders are displayed but not the root Inbox etc. > Its important to know that I migrated from courier-imap to dovecot. > > My well working namespace config BEFORE upgrade to 1.0.0-1: > > Here my actual namespace configs: > > namespace private { > separator = > prefix = INBOX. > inbox = no > hidden = no > } > namespace private { > separator = / > prefix = INBOX/ > inbox = no > hidden = yes > } > namespace private { > separator = . > prefix = INBOX. > inbox = yes > hidden = yes > } > Try it using only one namespace which matches what you are really doing. With 1.0 this works for me with all clients I've tried, including Apple. namespace private { separator = . prefix = INBOX. inbox = yes hidden = no } > In varying inbox and hidden keywords I found this configuration. Most > things are working with this but in squirrelmal I can't access inbox, > the main folder. > > How do I have to configure that everythings works satisfying?? > > dovecot.conf and dovecot-sql.conf I send in the attachment. instead of sending dovecot.conf, next time use dovecot -n -- Kenny Dail <kend(a)amigo.net>

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