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best practice purging only moved messages
by Marc 17 Mar '21

17 Mar '21

If I move a message from the 'inbox' namespace to my 'archive' namespace. The message is expunged at the 'inbox' namespace and added to the 'archive' namespace. What is the best way to only purge messages that have been moved. (I do not want to purge emails that have been deleted yet)

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How can I migrate mailboxes after changing hierarchy separator?
by Popkornium18 17 Mar '21

17 Mar '21

Hi, I had a common problem (folders can't contain dots) and the obvious solution seems to be changing the hierarchy separator and using the listescape plugin. My question is: Do I need to take any extra steps after changing the separator to migrate my existing mailboxes? If so, which? I tried just simply renaming the folders and doing a `doveadm force-resync` but that did not work as intended. Afterwards I wasn't able to subscribe to any of my folders, so I guess that isn't the way to go. Kind regards Simon

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inconsistency in reporting from mdbox_deleted
by Marc 17 Mar '21

17 Mar '21

This reports all folders, ok [@ testtest]# doveadm -o mail_location=mdbox_deleted:/home/mail-archive/testtest/Archive:INDEX=/home/archiveindex/testtest/index mailbox status -u testtest 'messages vsize' '*' 2011 messages=0 vsize=0 2012 messages=0 vsize=0 2013 messages=0 vsize=0 2014 messages=0 vsize=0 2015 messages=0 vsize=0 2016 messages=0 vsize=0 2017 messages=0 vsize=0 2018 messages=0 vsize=0 2019 messages=0 vsize=0 doveadm(testtest): Error: Mailbox Archive: Failed to lookup mailbox status: Mailbox doesn't exist: Archive INBOX messages=15 vsize=12066832 This gets folder INBOX, ok [@ testtest]# doveadm -o mail_location=mdbox_deleted:/home/mail-archive/testtest/Archive:INDEX=/home/archiveindex/testtest/index mailbox status -u testtest 'messages vsize' 'INBOX' INBOX messages=15 vsize=12066832 This reports error that a folder does not exist, ok [@ testtest]# doveadm -o mail_location=mdbox_deleted:/home/mail-archive/testtest/Archive:INDEX=/home/archiveindex/testtest/index mailbox status -u testtest 'messages vsize' 'asdfasdfasdfasdf' doveadm(testtest): Error: Mailbox asdfasdfasdfasdf: Failed to lookup mailbox status: Mailbox doesn't exist: asdfasdfasdfasdf This query for Archive/2012 reports same as for 2012(?), by design, I guess ok [@ testtest]# doveadm -o mail_location=mdbox_deleted:/home/mail-archive/testtest/Archive:INDEX=/home/archiveindex/testtest/index mailbox status -u testtest 'messages vsize' 'Archive/2012' Archive/2012 messages=0 vsize=0 This reports 0?, This should either report the folder does not exist, or it should report the same as getting the INBOX, like previous result [@ testtest]# doveadm -o mail_location=mdbox_deleted:/home/mail-archive/testtest/Archive:INDEX=/home/archiveindex/testtest/index mailbox status -u testtest 'messages vsize' 'Archive/INBOX' Archive/INBOX messages=0 vsize=0

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feature request: prevent linking of email
by Marc 17 Mar '21

17 Mar '21

What I have been doing wrong with testing expunged emails, is working with linked copies of emails. Although thunderbird copies the message, it looks like the message is NOT copied but linked. If I drag 3 emails from my desktop to a folder INBOX/test4 and copy 1 message from INBOX to INBOX/test4. I have 4 messages in this folder. I now shift+del this folder. The expunged messages listing gives me the expected 3 messages doveadm -o mail_location=mdbox_deleted:/home/popusers/testtest/mdbox:INDEX=/home/popindex/testtest/index mailbox status -u testtest 'messages vsize' '*' Sent messages=0 vsize=0 Drafts messages=0 vsize=0 INBOX/test2 messages=0 vsize=0 Junk messages=0 vsize=0 Trash messages=0 vsize=0 test3 messages=0 vsize=0 test1 messages=0 vsize=0 RESTORED messages=0 vsize=0 INBOX messages=3 vsize=18079344 Lets recover these: doveadm -v import -u testtest 'mdbox_deleted:/home/popusers/testtest/mdbox:INDEX=/home/popindex/testtest/index' RESTORED ALL Now I have 3 messages back, as expected. From an end users perspective if you delete a folder with 4 emails, you want your restored backup to have 4 emails, not 3 because one is already somewhere else in your folder/mailbox structure. The reason for copying an email to a different folder is that it is important. You do not want to loose it, and you want to be able to find it there. It is wrong to assume that a user will notice that these emails are missing and should look for them elsewhere. Say you have folder for a court case, and you copy emails there relevant for the court case. How can you ever know after a restore that a few email are missing from the folder, and which ones. I think it is bad this email is currently 'lost'. I rather have an option in dovecot that disables this hidden 'deduplication' feature. I think this should be the default setting also. This current deduplication feature also is hazardous because if this one copy of the email gets corrupted on the storage, you have no copies left. That is exactly the opposite of what user wants to accomplish with creating a copy. Feature request: disable this automatic linking of emails between mailboxes. Feature request: set this as a default.

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Ability to put dovecot version in received header
by Kamil Jońca 17 Mar '21

17 Mar '21

I know that some time ago there was a discussion and this is conscious decision to remove dovecot version from headers during lmtp delievery. But is it possible to restore it as an option? -- http://stopstopnop.pl/stop_stopnop.pl_o_nas.html

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Latest dovecot does not work with latest MUA (thunderbird)
by lja＠koti 17 Mar '21

17 Mar '21

Hi, Latest dovecot does not work with latest thunderbird. It does not react to sent emails. They are put to maildir by postfix a-ok. The version of thunderbird that works ok: 68.12.1 Distro: Distributor ID: Ubuntu Description: Ubuntu 20.04.2 LTS Release: 20.04 Codename: focal $ dovecot -n # 2.3.7.2 (3c910f64b): /etc/dovecot/dovecot.conf # Pigeonhole version 0.5.7.2 () # OS: Linux 5.9.0-rc5 x86_64 Ubuntu 20.04.2 LTS # Hostname: superman.sillywalk.org auth_debug = yes auth_debug_passwords = yes auth_mechanisms = plain login auth_verbose = yes auth_verbose_passwords = plain debug_log_path = /var/log/dovecot-debug.log info_log_path = /var/log/dovecot-info.log log_path = /var/log/dovecot.log mail_debug = yes mail_location = maildir:~/Maildir/ mbox_write_locks = fcntl namespace inbox { inbox = yes location = mailbox Drafts { special_use = \Drafts } mailbox Junk { special_use = \Junk } mailbox Sent { special_use = \Sent } mailbox "Sent Messages" { special_use = \Sent } mailbox Trash { special_use = \Trash } prefix = } passdb { driver = pam } protocols = imap pop3 service auth { unix_listener /var/spool/postfix/private/auth { group = mail mode = 0660 user = postfix } } ssl_cert = </etc/letsencrypt/live/lja.fi/fullchain.pem ssl_dh = # hidden, use -P to show it ssl_key = # hidden, use -P to show it userdb { driver = passwd } protocol imap { imap_metadata = yes } local_name paxsudos.fi { ssl_cert = </etc/letsencrypt/live/somethingB.fi/fullchain.pem ssl_dh = # hidden, use -P to show it ssl_key = # hidden, use -P to show it } local_name paxsudos.com { ssl_cert = </etc/letsencrypt/live/somethingB.com/fullchain.pem ssl_dh = # hidden, use -P to show it ssl_key = # hidden, use -P to show it } local_name lja.fi { ssl_cert = </etc/letsencrypt/live/somethingA.fi/fullchain.pem ssl_dh = # hidden, use -P to show it ssl_key = # hidden, use -P to show it } -- <https://paxsudos.com/> ,-- Information -------------------------------------------------------- ------ --- -- - | Lauri Jakku | Contact: | Phone: +358 40 220 3910 | Address: Puusepänkatu 1 A 3, 90130 Oulu, Finland '--------------- -------- ----- ----- ------- ---- --- -- Firmani, Paxsudos IT, kautta olen jättämässä oman, vaikka pienen, jäljen ympäristötekoina, että tulevaisuudessakin voimme nauttia luonnosta. Ympäristö ja luonto on sellaista joita otamme itsestäänselvyyksinä, tuon takia on käymässä niin että havahdumme kun on tilanne erittäin huono. We offset our carbon footprint via Ecologi <https://ecologi.com/paxsudosit> ,-- Virus scan done for content -------------------------------------------------------- ------ --- -- - | Known viruses: 10722370 | Engine version: 0.102.4 | Scanned directories: 0 | Scanned files: 1 | Infected files: 0 | Data scanned: 0.01 MB | Data read: 0.01 MB (ratio 1.00:1) | Time: 16.864 sec (0 m 16 s) '--------------- -------- ----- ----- ------- ---- --- --

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feature request: doveadm -Dv purge
by Marc 17 Mar '21

17 Mar '21

Maybe list emails being purged

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how to search expunged messages
by Marc 16 Mar '21

16 Mar '21

Is there an equivalent for expunged messages of this: doveadm search -u testtest mailbox '*' DELETED

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another try listing expunged mail, now only tested with dovecot cli
by Marc 16 Mar '21

16 Mar '21

testing with expunging messages with subject "delete me" this is the correct commend to list expunged messages? [@ testtest]# doveadm -o mail_location=mdbox_deleted:/home/popusers/testtest/mdbox:INDEX=/home/popindex/testtest/index mailbox status -u testtest 'messages vsize' '*' Sent messages=0 vsize=0 Drafts messages=0 vsize=0 INBOX/test2 messages=0 vsize=0 Junk messages=0 vsize=0 Trash messages=0 vsize=0 test3 messages=0 vsize=0 test1 messages=0 vsize=0 INBOX messages=0 vsize=0 We have a few messages with subject 'delete me' in the inbox namespace [@ ~]# doveadm search -u testtest mailbox test1 subject 'delete me' | wc -l 4 [@ ~]# doveadm search -u testtest mailbox INBOX/test2 subject 'delete me' | wc -l 2 [@ ~]# doveadm search -u testtest mailbox test3 subject 'delete me' | wc -l 8 Disk space used [@ testtest]# du -s -k /home/popusers/testtest/mdbox/storage/ 135356 /home/popusers/testtest/mdbox/storage/ Ok lets expunge some emails [@ testtest]# doveadm expunge -u testtest mailbox test1 subject 'delete me' doveadm(testtest): Info: expunge: box=test1, msgid=<202011052050.0A5Ko7Jc005461(a)web01.xxxxxx.xxxx> doveadm(testtest): Info: expunge: box=test1, msgid=<202011052050.0A5Ko7Jc005461(a)web01.xxxxxx.xxxx> doveadm(testtest): Info: expunge: box=test1, msgid=<202011052050.0A5Ko7Jc005461(a)web01.xxxxxx.xxxx> doveadm(testtest): Info: expunge: box=test1, msgid=<202011052050.0A5Ko7Jc005461(a)web01.xxxxxx.xxxx> [@ testtest]# doveadm expunge -u testtest mailbox INBOX/test2 subject 'delete me' doveadm(testtest): Info: expunge: box=INBOX/test2, msgid=<202011052050.0A5Ko7Jc005461(a)web01.xxxxxx.xxxx> doveadm(testtest): Info: expunge: box=INBOX/test2, msgid=<202011052050.0A5Ko7Jc005461(a)web01.xxxxxx.xxxx> [@ testtest]# doveadm expunge -u testtest mailbox test3 subject 'delete me' doveadm(testtest): Info: expunge: box=test3, msgid=<202011052050.0A5Ko7Jc005461(a)web01.xxxxxx.xxxx> doveadm(testtest): Info: expunge: box=test3, msgid=<202011052050.0A5Ko7Jc005461(a)web01.xxxxxx.xxxx> doveadm(testtest): Info: expunge: box=test3, msgid=<202011052050.0A5Ko7Jc005461(a)web01.xxxxxx.xxxx> doveadm(testtest): Info: expunge: box=test3, msgid=<202011052050.0A5Ko7Jc005461(a)web01.xxxxxx.xxxx> doveadm(testtest): Info: expunge: box=test3, msgid=<202011052050.0A5Ko7Jc005461(a)web01.xxxxxx.xxxx> doveadm(testtest): Info: expunge: box=test3, msgid=<202011052050.0A5Ko7Jc005461(a)web01.xxxxxx.xxxx> doveadm(testtest): Info: expunge: box=test3, msgid=<202011052050.0A5Ko7Jc005461(a)web01.xxxxxx.xxxx> doveadm(testtest): Info: expunge: box=test3, msgid=<202011052050.0A5Ko7Jc005461(a)web01.xxxxxx.xxxx> Looks like the correct amount of messages are deleted [@ testtest]# du -s -k /home/popusers/testtest/mdbox/storage/ 135356 /home/popusers/testtest/mdbox/storage/ Lets check the expunged mail, again still everywhere 0 [@ testtest]# doveadm -o mail_location=mdbox_deleted:/home/popusers/testtest/mdbox:INDEX=/home/popindex/testtest/index mailbox status -u testtest 'messages vsize' '*' Sent messages=0 vsize=0 Drafts messages=0 vsize=0 INBOX/test2 messages=0 vsize=0 Junk messages=0 vsize=0 Trash messages=0 vsize=0 test3 messages=0 vsize=0 test1 messages=0 vsize=0 INBOX messages=0 vsize=0 This does not return any messages, so they were expunged. [@ testtest]# doveadm search -u testtest mailbox test3 subject 'delete me' How can I get the amount of messages expunged in the folders? I do not get it.

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"younger" - filter on virtual INBOX
by Josef Haider 16 Mar '21

16 Mar '21

Hello, I think I have run into an issue which has been posted to this list in 2018 already: > Hello Rob, > > Do you by chance have a virtual/All folder which holds all your > messages? If so, could I see that configuration? > > Thanks. > Dave. > > > On 2/27/18, Rob Hoelz <rob+dovecot at hoelz.ro <https://dovecot.org/mailman/listinfo/dovecot>> wrote: > >/Hi list, />//>/I just encountered a problem while using dovecot's Virtual plugin with />/2.3.0. I managed to solve the issue, />/but I wanted to bring it to the attention of others on the list to > see if />/there exists a better solution, if />/I found a bug, or if it's just a matter of updating documentation. />//>/I have a virtual folder to get the most recent two weeks of mails; it > looks />/something like this: />//>>/INBOX />>/all younger 1209600 />//>/I made this folder back in October. Lately, I started to notice that the />/virtual folder had a surprising amount />/of mail in it - I don't get 1,000 e-mails per week! After some doveadm />/commands, I realized that e-mails from />/October were still present in my virtual folder! Updating the />/dovecot-virtual would clear away e-mails older than />/two weeks (I needed to actually introduce a change, even if it was just />/whitespace - just touching the file didn't />/update things), and removing the dovecot index file also cleared things />/away. In then end, I ended up just telling />/dovecot to disable on-disk indexes for that folder. />//>/I created this folder based on the examples on />/https://wiki.dovecot.org/Plugins/Virtual > <https://wiki.dovecot.org/Plugins/Virtual> - I'm wondering if I found > a bug />/or if that page should be changed to recommend disabling on-disk indexes />/when using certain search query filters such as />/"younger". If the latter, I can always make the change - just let me > know! />//>/-Rob /> Unfortunately, that thread died, so I'm trying my luck now... I am trying to have mail from several shared mailboxes show up in a user's INBOX if they are unread or younger than 24h, using the filter "or (unseen) (all younger 86400)". This works when forcing dovecot to regenerate index files, as mentioned above, by adding spaces to the virtual Inbox config file. Otherwise, mail older than 24h is not removed from the virtual INBOX. Any help would be greatly appreciated :) namespace configuration: namespace lists { list = children location = maildir:/var/mail/lists:CONTROL=~/Maildir/lists:INDEX=~/Maildir/lists prefix = lists. separator = . subscriptions = no type = public } namespace real { hidden = yes list = no location = prefix = RealMails. separator = . } namespace vimap { hidden = yes list = no location = virtual:/var/mail/virtual/vimap:INDEX=~/Maildir/vimap prefix = vimap. separator = . } /var/mail/virtual/vimap: !RealMails all lists.* or (unseen) (all younger 86400) dovecot version: # 2.3.4.1 (f79e8e7e4) # Pigeonhole version 0.5.4 () # OS: Linux 4.19.0-14-amd64 x86_64 Debian 10.8 -Joe

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