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is a self signed certificate always invalid the first time?
by Alef Veld 18 Aug '17

18 Aug '17

So i’m using dovecot, and i created a self signed certificate with mkcert.sh based on dovecot-openssl.cnf. The name in there matches my mail server. The first time it connects in mac mail however, it says the certificate is invalid and another server might pretend to be me etc. I then have the option of trusting it. Is this normal behaviour? Will it always be invalid if it’s not signed by a third party? Thank you.

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Dovecot mail_location for fedora
by Randy Gordey 18 Aug '17

18 Aug '17

What is the syntax for dovecot mail_location when postfix delivers mail to /var/spool/mail/? These are the old unix style mbox, one file per user. Not setting mail_location in 10-mail.conf results in Auto not finding it. mbox: /var/spool/mail/%u said mbox root directory can't be a file. mbox: /var/spool/mail/ tries to make Sent and Deleted Folders, etc. maildir: /var/spool/mail/ closes the connection. I am using Outlook 2016 and Thunderbird are two imap clients I am trying. For Dovecot, 2.2.31 is the version. Postfix is version 3.2.2 and seems to be working. A vanilla Fedora 26 is the OS

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Re: is a self signed certificate always invalid the first time
by Joseph Tam 18 Aug '17

18 Aug '17

> Obviously you do not use clustered environments with more than one node > per service. Else you would not call it "it just works", because in > fact the renewal is quite big bs as one node must do the job while all > the others must be _offline_. I'm not sure how you have set up your clustered service, but why do your nodes have to go offline? If these other nodes are using an older certificate, it should still work as the previous/renewed certificate usually have overlapping active begin/expiration dates. Joseph Tam <jtam.home(a)gmail.com>

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Re: v2.2.32 release candidate released
by Joseph Tam 18 Aug '17

18 Aug '17

Timo Sirainen wrote: Thanks for the reply -- I think I can now write a new config to test these tasty features out. >>> + mail_location can now include NO-NOSELECT parameter. This >>> automatically deletes any \NoSelect mailboxes that have no children. >>> These mailboxes are sometimes confusing to users. >> >> Sorry for my IMAP ignorance, but how can this situation come about? > > a CREATE noselectbox/ > --> With this change it's the same as CREATE "noselectbox" = will become selectable. > > or > > a CREATE noselectbox/childbox > b DELETE noselectbox/childbox > --> noselectbox is left behind. With this change it will be auto-deleted. So, does that mean empty folders will be auto-deleted, or this wouldn't affect them? > I think already even with mailbox_list_index=yes it won't notice > external changes done to the mailboxes when doing STATUS calls, so > better to avoid that. It does get fixed automatically once the folder > is selected though. I'm running it this way now (concurrent file and dovecot access) and most users are blithe to it, so I guess it won't be too much worse. I'll try aggressive caching and back off if it causes confusion. Thanks. Joseph Tam <jtam.home(a)gmail.com>

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Released Pigeonhole v0.4.20.rc1 for Dovecot v2.2.32.rc1.
by Stephan Bosch 18 Aug '17

18 Aug '17

Hello Dovecot users, Here's a release candidate for a quick Pigeonhole release, mostly containing fixes. One fix addresses a problem caused by the previous release. Changelog v0.4.20: + Made the retention period for redirect duplicate identifiers configurable. For accounts that perform many redirects, the lda-dupes database could grow to impractical sizes. Changed the default retention period from 24 to 12 hours. - sieve-filter: Fixed memory leak: forgot to clean up script binary at end of execution. Normally, this would merely be an inconsequential memory leak. However, when the script comes from an LDAP storage, this would cause io leak warnings. - managesieve-login: Fixed handling of AUTHENTICATE command. A second authenticate command would be parsed wrong. This problem was caused by changes in the previous release. - LDA Sieve plugin: Fixed minor memory leak caused by not cleaning up the sieve_discard script. The release is available as follows: http://pigeonhole.dovecot.org/releases/2.2/rc/dovecot-2.2-pigeonhole-0.4.20… http://pigeonhole.dovecot.org/releases/2.2/rc/dovecot-2.2-pigeonhole-0.4.20… Refer to http://pigeonhole.dovecot.org and the Dovecot v2.x wiki for more information. Have fun testing this release candidate and don't hesitate to notify me when there are any problems. Regards, -- Stephan Bosch stephan(a)rename-it.nl

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weakforced
by Mark Moseley 17 Aug '17

17 Aug '17

I've been playing with weakforced, so it fills in the 'fail2ban across a cluster' niche (not to mention RBLs). It seems to work well, once you've actually read the docs :) I was curious if anyone had played with it and was *very* curious if anyone was using it in high traffic production. Getting things to 'work' versus getting them to work *and* handle a couple hundred dovecot servers is a very wide margin. I realize this is not a weakforced mailing list (there doesn't appear to be one anyway), but the users here are some of the likeliest candidates for having tried it out. Mainly I'm curious if weakforced can handle serious concurrency and whether the cluster really works under load.

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Ubuntu 16.04 dovecot-core requires deprecated ntpdate
by Michael Fox 17 Aug '17

17 Aug '17

I'm building a new Ubuntu 16.04 machine, including Dovecot. When I select the dovecot-core package in Synaptic, it also wants to install ntpdate. Problem: ntpdate has been replaced in Ubuntu with timedatectl. In fact, if ntpdate exists on the machine, ntpd will not work properly. See: https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/NTP.html See: https://askubuntu.com/questions/769651/ntp-failed-to-synchronize-time See: https://ubuntu101.co.za/ubuntu/fix-ntp-on-ubuntu-16-starting-crashing/ http://www.ubuntugeek.com/install-and-configure-network-time-protocol-ntp-se rverclients-on-ubuntu-16-04-server.html . and more Indeed, I had to remove ntpdate in order to make ntpd work. I don't want to break ntpd. Now the dovecot-core package evidently requires ntpdate. I can't imagine why this dependency would exist. And I presume this dependency will prevent me from removing ntpdate after I install dovecot-core. Is the Debian package maintainer on the list? I don't know what to do. Any suggestions? Thanks in advance, Michael

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Can't recursively delete mailboxes
by Murray T. | Dreamscape 17 Aug '17

17 Aug '17

Hi, This appears to be some sort of dovecot bug. When I use the -r option to recursively delete a mailbox and sub-folders, it removes the sub-folders but not the inbox. It gives me the error below: doveadm mailbox delete -u denise(a)lifelinetechnique.com.au -r -s inbox doveadm(denise(a)lifelinetechnique.com.au): Error: Can't delete mailbox inbox: INBOX can't be deleted. Our user database is in ldap and I am using dovecot-ee v2:2.2.31.2-1. Could you please acknowledge that this is a bug or let me know the correct way of recursively deleting a mailbox as there is nothing in the man page about the -r option. Thanks Murray Regards, Murray T. Level 3 Project Manager P: +61 8 9422 0894 F: +61 8 9422 0801 www.DreamscapeNetworks.com<http://www.dreamscapenetworks.com/> [dreamscape]<http://www.dreamscapenetworks.com/> DISCLAIMER: This e-mail and/or attachments are confidential and may also be privileged. If you are not the named recipient, please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to other persons or use it for any purpose or store or copy the information in any medium. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of Dreamscape Networks. Copyright (c) 2017 www.DreamscapeNetworks.com<http://www.dreamscapenetworks.com/>, All rights reserved.

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Re: v2.2.32 release candidate released
by Joseph Tam 17 Aug '17

17 Aug '17

Timo Sirainen wrote: > There are various changes in this release that can be used to significantly reduce disk IO with: > 1) NFS storage especially, but I guess also other remote filesystems and even some with local disks > 2) When mail storage and INDEX storage are separated Thanks for these changes! Big win for my setup. My servers are not overly stressed, but how much performance gain (using any metric you choose) can one expect from these changes? > + mail_location can now include VOLATILEDIR=<path> parameter. This > is used for creating lock files and in future potentially other > files that don't need to exist permanently. The path could point to > tmpfs for example. This is especially useful to avoid creating lock > files to NFS or other remote filesystems. For example: > mail_location=sdbox:~/sdbox:VOLATILEDIR=/tmp/volatile/%2.256Nu/%u Is "/tmp/volatile" auto-created, or must be pre-created? > + mail_location's LISTINDEX=<path> can now contain a full path. > This allows storing mailbox list index to a different storage > than the rest of the indexes, for example to tmpfs. Is this in any way related to VOLATILEDIR? Can they be set to the same value without problems? > + mail_location can now include NO-NOSELECT parameter. This > automatically deletes any \NoSelect mailboxes that have no children. > These mailboxes are sometimes confusing to users. Sorry for my IMAP ignorance, but how can this situation come about? > + mail_location can now include ITERINDEX parameter. This tells Dovecot > to perform mailbox listing from the INDEX path instead of from the > mail root path. It's mainly useful when the INDEX storage is on a > faster storage. > + If mailbox_list_index_very_dirty_syncs=yes, the list index is no > longer refreshed against filesystem when listing mailboxes. This > allows the mailbox listing to be done entirely by only reading the > mailbox list index. > + Added mailbox_list_index_include_inbox setting to control whether > INBOX's STATUS information should be cached in the mailbox list > index. The default is "no", but it may be useful to change it to > "yes", especially if LISTINDEX points to tmpfs. So as I understand it, the optimzation comes about from segregating mail data information into 3 parts: raw mail, indices, and volatile components, putting them into increasingly better performing storage media. How do these I/O optimizations affect the client's view of a mailbox if their mailbox is subject to modification outside the dovecot system (e.g. procmail, mail readers directly modifies mailbox files)? Is there a trade-off between metadata consistency and performance, or it's a win-win all around? (I just saw your previous response to someone else, which I'll read more closely.) Joseph Tam <jtam.home(a)gmail.com>

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v2.2.32 release candidate released
by Timo Sirainen 17 Aug '17

17 Aug '17

https://dovecot.org/releases/2.2/rc/dovecot-2.2.32.rc1.tar.gz https://dovecot.org/releases/2.2/rc/dovecot-2.2.32.rc1.tar.gz.sig There are various changes in this release that can be used to significantly reduce disk IO with: 1) NFS storage especially, but I guess also other remote filesystems and even some with local disks 2) When mail storage and INDEX storage are separated * imapc: Info-level line is logged every time when successfully connected to the remote server. This includes local/remote IP/port, which can be useful for matching against external logs. * config: Log a warning if plugin { key=no } is used explicitly. v2.3 will support "no" properly in plugin settings, but for now any value at all for a boolean plugin setting is treated as "yes", even if it's written as explicit "no". This change will now warn that it most likely won't work as intended. + Various optimizations to avoid accessing files/directories when it's not necessary. Especially avoid accessing mail root directories when INDEX directories point to a different filesystem. + mail_location can now include ITERINDEX parameter. This tells Dovecot to perform mailbox listing from the INDEX path instead of from the mail root path. It's mainly useful when the INDEX storage is on a faster storage. + mail_location can now include VOLATILEDIR=<path> parameter. This is used for creating lock files and in future potentially other files that don't need to exist permanently. The path could point to tmpfs for example. This is especially useful to avoid creating lock files to NFS or other remote filesystems. For example: mail_location=sdbox:~/sdbox:VOLATILEDIR=/tmp/volatile/%2.256Nu/%u + mail_location's LISTINDEX=<path> can now contain a full path. This allows storing mailbox list index to a different storage than the rest of the indexes, for example to tmpfs. + mail_location can now include NO-NOSELECT parameter. This automatically deletes any \NoSelect mailboxes that have no children. These mailboxes are sometimes confusing to users. + mail_location can now include BROKENCHAR=<char> parameter. This can be useful with imapc to access mailbox names that aren't valid mUTF-7 charset from remote servers. + If mailbox_list_index_very_dirty_syncs=yes, the list index is no longer refreshed against filesystem when listing mailboxes. This allows the mailbox listing to be done entirely by only reading the mailbox list index. + Added mailbox_list_index_include_inbox setting to control whether INBOX's STATUS information should be cached in the mailbox list index. The default is "no", but it may be useful to change it to "yes", especially if LISTINDEX points to tmpfs. + userdb can return chdir=<path>, which override mail_home for the chdir location. This can be useful to avoid accessing home directory on login. + userdb can return postlogin=<socket> to specify per-user imap/pop3 postlogin socket path. + cassandra: Add support for result paging by adding page_size=<n> parameter to the connect setting. + dsync/imapc, pop3-migration plugin: Strip also trailing tabs from headers when matching mails. This helps with migrations from Zimbra. + imap_logout_format supports now %{appended} and %{autoexpunged} + virtual plugin: Optimize IDLE to use mailbox list index for finding out when something has changed. - virtual plugin: A lot of fixes. In many cases it was also working very inefficiently or even incorrectly. - imap: NOTIFY parameter parsing was incorrectly "fixed" in v2.2.31. It was actually (mostly) working in previous versions, but broken in v2.2.31. - Modseq tracking didn't always work correctly. This could have caused imap unhibernation to fail or IMAP QRESYNC/CONDSTORE extensions to not work perfectly. - mdbox: "Inconsistency in map index" wasn't fixed automatically - dict-ldap: %variable values used in the LDAP filter weren't escaped. - quota=count: quota_warning = -storage=.. was never executed (try #2). v2.2.31 fixed it for -messages, but not for -storage. - imapc: >= 32 kB mail bodies were supposed to be cached for subsequent FETCHes, but weren't. - quota-status service didn't support recipient_delimiter - acl: Don't access dovecot-acl-list files with acl_globals_only=yes - mail_location: If INDEX dir is set, mailbox deletion deletes its childrens' indexes. For example if "box" is deleted, "box/child" index directory was deleted as well (but mails were preserved).

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