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[Dovecot] TECRA-A9 -- devcot LDA/sendmail
by dovecot＠guice.ath.cx 21 Aug '08

21 Aug '08

FreeBSD 6.3-RELEASE-p3 i386 --------------- sendmail -d0.1 Version 8.14.2 Compiled with: DNSMAP LOG MAP_REGEX MATCHGECOS MILTER MIME7TO8 MIME8TO7 NAMED_BIND NETINET NETINET6 NETUNIX NEWDB NIS PIPELINING SASLv2 SCANF STARTTLS TCPWRAPPERS USERDB XDEBUG ------------------ dovecot-1.0.7 dovecot-sieve-1.0.2 _______________________ IMAP-UW was previously used. ISSUE-1: Unable to get new mail delivered to the Dovecot generated ~/Maildir/folders. The mail continues be delivered to the standard /var/mail/<user-name>. Ofcourse, until I get the aforementioned functioning, I'm unable to experience the Dovecot-sieve. With focus on the above issue, my dovecot-conf has mail_location = maildir:~/Maildir mail_location = mbox:~/mail/:INBOX=/var/mail/%u mail_plugin_dir = /usr/local/lib/dovecot/lda mail_plugins = mail_plugins = cmusieve With the above four (4) lines in the dovecot.conf the mail continues to find its way to /var/mail/user-name. After which I find this -- http://wiki.dovecot.org/LDA/Sendmail which did not work for us. New mail continues to get delivered to /var/mail/user-name. We find another resource of information to help get this working; http://www.dovecot.org/list/dovecot/2007-April/021448.html -- while it looks promising it opened up a whole new issue (see below) --not to mention it too was not able to deliver our mail to ~/Maildir ... mail continues to get delivered to /var/mail/usr-name. ISSUE-1a: The following text was generated while trying to resolve issue-1 (above): The short version is after generating another hostname.cf 'plugins' and/or the plugin directory was not found during two (2) attempts of starting and restarting sendmail. On the third attempt the directory and its files were magically found; the plugin directory and its files were always there. - WORKSTATION# make install restart /usr/bin/m4 -D_CF_DIR_=/usr/share/sendmail/cf/ /usr/share/sendmail/cf/m4/cf.m4 /etc/mail/WORKSTATION.mc > /etc/mail/WORKSTATION.cf install -m 444 /etc/mail/WORKSTATION.cf /etc/mail/sendmail.cf install -m 444 /etc/mail/WORKSTATION.submit.cf /etc/mail/submit.cf Restarting: sendmail sendmail-clientmqueue. WORKSTATION# Aug 19 03:43:09 WORKSTATION deliver(email): Plugin mail_plugins not found from directory /usr/local/lib/dovecot/lda ----- WORKSTATION# make restart Restarting: sendmail sendmail-clientmqueue. WORKSTATION# Aug 19 03:43:41 WORKSTATION deliver(email): Plugin mail_plugins not found from directory /usr/local/lib/dovecot/lda ------- WORKSTATION# ll /usr/local/lib/dovecot/lda total 272 lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 22 Nov 30 2007 lib01_acl_plugin.so -> ../lib01_a cl_plugin.so lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 24 Nov 30 2007 lib10_quota_plugin.so -> ../lib10 _quota_plugin.so lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 24 Nov 30 2007 lib11_trash_plugin.so -> ../lib11 _trash_plugin.so lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 26 Nov 30 2007 lib20_convert_plugin.so -> ../lib 20_convert_plugin.so lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 27 Nov 30 2007 lib20_mail_log_plugin.so -> ../li b20_mail_log_plugin.so -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 151292 Nov 30 2007 lib90_cmusieve_plugin.a -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 909 Nov 30 2007 lib90_cmusieve_plugin.la -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 123073 Nov 30 2007 lib90_cmusieve_plugin.so --------- WORKSTATION# make restart Restarting: sendmail sendmail-clientmqueue. WORKSTATION# make install restart install -m 444 /etc/mail/WORKSTATION.cf /etc/mail/sendmail.cf install -m 444 /etc/mail/WORKSTATION.submit.cf /etc/mail/submit.cf Restarting: sendmail sendmail-clientmqueue ISSUE-2: Next is the converting, and moving, of existing mail from /var/mail/<user-name> (file) to the newly generated ~/Maildir/folders. NOTE: I've seen a few files on or linked to the Dovecot wiki page but, I'm a bit reluctant to try them because of directions/instructions I followed in the past with regards to LDA/sendmail that appears to either be incorrect or the author assumes the reader has prior knowledge (we don't have this knowledge); in addition the article appeared to be Red Hat specific. We would like to resolve all of the above with some level of authority. We are not programmers and can barely script so please go easy with the jargon/termonology Apologies for the long wind.

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Re: [Dovecot] dovecot-antispam has some kind of bug
by Mikael Jenkler 21 Aug '08

21 Aug '08

Needed to be a member, now its done, sorry for remailing this again (need to be in list) Mikael Jenkler wrote: > Yeah! > > My problem is gone. needed: > latest dovecot-antispam plugin > and dovecot-1.1.2 minimum > > Thanks Johannes > > > about my other question: > > > My dspam users has the email as username somthing(a)domain.com and in > dovecot.conf i need to specify the user when training, is there a > way to get the resiptient address in the dovecot.conf? i am only able > to get %u ie the username ;-( > > Could you patch the antispam plugin to be able to take then resiptient > as dspam user? ie the mail address , you can have a option in dovecot > that says use resiptient address as user or something > > it would be great if you had time to check this out ;-) > > > > > > > /J3nkl3r > > > On Mon, 2008-08-18 at 10:04 +0200, Mikael Jenkler wrote: > >> > Hi All! >> > > There is a issue with dovecot-antispam and the new dovecot-1.1.x >> > (dovecot-1.1.1) >> > > The antispam plugin requires 1.1.2 > > johannes > > > > > > Johannes Berg wrote: >> On Thu, 2008-08-21 at 12:25 +0200, Mikael Jenkler wrote: >> >>> Hi Johannes! >>> >>> it seams that you pluggin is doing something wrong with the imap >>> connection >>> >>> i get this: >>> >>> Aug 21 12:21:54 firestorm dovecot: child 21443 (imap) killed with >>> signal 11 >>> >>> both with squirrelmail and mutt mail clients, but only when the >>> pluggin is enabled in dovecot >>> iam using dovecot-1.1.1 >>> >>> have you seen this error before? >>> >> >> Only with older versions of my plugin. Are you using the latests dovecot >> 1.1 and my plugin? We'll need you to compile both dovecot and the plugin >> with debugging information and provide a backtrace. >> >> johannes >> > >

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[Dovecot] Regarding dovecot-antispam bug!
by Mikael Jenkler 21 Aug '08

21 Aug '08

Hi All! There is a issue with dovecot-antispam and the new dovecot-1.1.x (dovecot-1.1.1) The imap server dies when sending mail, the mail goes away but it says that the imap server has crached in squirrelmail. I get the standard signal 11 crach in the dovecot loggs another question? My dspam users has the email as username somthing(a)domain.com and in dovecot.conf i need to specify the user when training, is there a w way to get the resiptient address in the dovecot.conf? i am only able to get %u ie the username ;-( Could you patch the antispam plugin to be able to take then resiptient as dspam user? ie the mail address , you can have a option in dovecot that says use resiptient address as user or something it would be great if you had time to check this out ;-) Thanks in advance

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Re: [Dovecot] dovecot-antispam has some kind of bug
by Johannes Berg 21 Aug '08

21 Aug '08

On Thu, 2008-08-21 at 12:25 +0200, Mikael Jenkler wrote: > Hi Johannes! > > it seams that you pluggin is doing something wrong with the imap connection > > i get this: > > Aug 21 12:21:54 firestorm dovecot: child 21443 (imap) killed with signal 11 > > both with squirrelmail and mutt mail clients, but only when the pluggin > is enabled in dovecot > iam using dovecot-1.1.1 > > have you seen this error before? Only with older versions of my plugin. Are you using the latests dovecot 1.1 and my plugin? We'll need you to compile both dovecot and the plugin with debugging information and provide a backtrace. johannes

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[Dovecot] Sent Date/time vs Received Date/time
by Charles Marcus 21 Aug '08

21 Aug '08

On 8/20/2008, Nicolas KOWALSKI (nicolas.kowalski(a)gmail.com) wrote: > The alpine documentation states about 'Arrival' sorting: > > " The Arrival sort option arranges messages in the MESSAGE INDEX in > the order that they exist in the folder. This is usually the same as > the order in which they arrived. This option is comparable to not > sorting the messages at all. " > > It is the same (non-)ordering available in Mozilla mail clients, with > the 'Order Received' option. Ok, this is something that I have thought about from time to time. I know that every message has a 'received' header, which is basically the date/time stamp of the SENDERS CLIENT - so if their system's time is off, that date/time header will be off. So, where does this 'Order Received' column in TBird get its info from? I'm guessing it is a TBird thing, like an internal index number? In my mind, there should be two primary date/time columns: Sent Date/Time = Date/time of the Client system when message was sent (this is already there as the plain 'Date' column) and Received Date/Time = Date/time the receiving SERVER DELIVERED it I can see the benefit for the third 'Client' side Date/time stamp, which is the current 'Order Received' in TBird. I'd like to see support added for grabbing the last date/time from the LDA that delivers the message, but that obviously request is for the TBird devs (or most likely an extension request), but... The main question is - is there a proper IMAP/RFC for providing/getting this date/time? -- Best regards, Charles

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Re: [Dovecot] Dovecot & (Al)pine - resaving messages to Inbox
by Jonathan Herbach 21 Aug '08

21 Aug '08

> I suppose the OP does not sort by date but Arrival time (this means arrival time in the mailbox). Exactly. I sort by arrival time, which in practice is the "unsorted" ordering based upon the mbox file itself. (Except I'd like to control the arbitrary "unsorted" order that I want by "resave to inbox" to handle reordering.) Nicolas wrote: > - a quick grep shows this is 'normal' behaviour, as written in > src/lib-storage/index/mbox/mbox-save.c > > if (mbox->mbox_lock_type == F_RDLCK) { > /* FIXME: we shouldn't fail here. it's just > a locking issue that should be possible to > fix.. */ > mail_storage_set_error(storage, > MAIL_ERROR_NOTPOSSIBLE, > "Can't copy mails inside same mailbox"); > return -1; > } So I'm currently using: mbox_write_locks: fcntl When I was using version 9 the relevant config setting was: "mbox_locks = fcntl", which plus the config suggestion "fcntl: Use this if possible" led me down this path. Does anybody know why this code was designed this way / why it is different from 0.99 behavior / etc? Jonathan _________________________________________________________________ Get thousands of games on your PC, your mobile phone, and the web with Windows®. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/108588800/direct/01/

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[Dovecot] Dovecot & (Al)pine - resaving messages to Inbox
by Jonathan Herbach 21 Aug '08

21 Aug '08

I have a x86 Linux box running Fedora 4. Up until 2008 I was using pine 4.64 and Dovecot 0.99.x. In early 2008 I transitioned to Alpine 1.10, and didn't notice any major changes. I upgraded to Dovecot 1.0.15 this past weekend. My dovecot -n settings are at the bottom of the email. I've noticed a change since Dovecot was upgraded. I used to reorder items within my INBOX in al/pine by "saving" messages back to the INBOX, which I was connecting via IMAP . Now when I try to do it I get an error in alpine that says: [Can't copy mails inside same folder] then: [Save to folder "{localhost:143/i...r=jherbach}INBOX" FAILED] While these are alpine messages, they appear to be from the dovecot upgrade. I really miss the ability to reorder messages in my inbox since I often use it as a queue of important items. Does anybody have any ideas why I'm seeing this error message? Or better yet, how to potentially (re) configure the system to allow me to resave messages into the same folder? Jonathan --------------- My settings: # 1.0.15: /usr/local/etc/dovecot.conf protocols: imap pop3 imaps pop3s ssl_cert_file: /etc/pki/dovecot/dovecot.pem ssl_key_file: /etc/pki/dovecot/private/dovecot.pem disable_plaintext_auth: no login_dir: /var/run/dovecot-login login_executable(default): /usr/local/libexec/dovecot/imap-login login_executable(imap): /usr/local/libexec/dovecot/imap-login login_executable(pop3): /usr/local/libexec/dovecot/pop3-login first_valid_gid: 100 last_valid_gid: 100 mail_location: mbox:%h/mail:INBOX=%h/Mailbox mbox_write_locks: fcntl mail_executable(default): /usr/local/libexec/dovecot/imap mail_executable(imap): /usr/local/libexec/dovecot/imap mail_executable(pop3): /usr/local/libexec/dovecot/pop3 mail_plugin_dir(default): /usr/local/lib/dovecot/imap mail_plugin_dir(imap): /usr/local/lib/dovecot/imap mail_plugin_dir(pop3): /usr/local/lib/dovecot/pop3 pop3_no_flag_updates(default): no pop3_no_flag_updates(imap): no pop3_no_flag_updates(pop3): yes pop3_uidl_format(default): pop3_uidl_format(imap): pop3_uidl_format(pop3): %08Xu%08X pop3_client_workarounds(default): pop3_client_workarounds(imap): pop3_client_workarounds(pop3): outlook-no-nuls auth default: passdb: driver: pam userdb: driver: passwd _________________________________________________________________ Get ideas on sharing photos from people like you. Find new ways to share. http://www.windowslive.com/explore/photogallery/posts?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Pho…

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[Dovecot] config file parsing, tab characters
by John Hannfield 21 Aug '08

21 Aug '08

Hello, I am using the latest dovecot 1.1.2 with postfix, and using doveco deliver command for LDA. I really love dovecot, and how it has progressed over the years. However I have noticed that if I put a TAB character in the dovecot.conf file, it sometimes does not parse the file correctlty, and complains about missing postmaster_address etc, even though they are there. So I reformated my config file, with just spaces, no tabs. I am very careful about that now. However I still seem to have a problem in some places with spaces. For example, in the LDA section: If I have 3 or 4 spaces, after the lda line in the definition, like so: #----------------------------------------------------------------------------- # LDA Settings #----------------------------------------------------------------------------- protocol lda { postmaster_address = postmaster(a)mydomain.com hostname = mydomain.com .... it does not work. I must have only 1 space between the end of lda and the curly bracket. Like this: #----------------------------------------------------------------------------- # LDA Settings #----------------------------------------------------------------------------- protocol lda { postmaster_address = postmaster(a)mydomain.com hostname = mydomain.com .... This seems very flaky. I am not certain I will always be able to check the file when making changes. So my question is: 1. Is there someway to check the validity of the dovecot.conf file. I notice dovecot -n does not print the entire config. 2. Is there any chance the code used to parse the config file, could be updated to be more robust, and to include support for tabs? Thank you. Paul

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[Dovecot] How Can I Tell How Dovecot Was Installed?
by Blake Carver 21 Aug '08

21 Aug '08

I'm trying to help someone with Dovecot, and it looks like this one is a few versions behind. They say that they're not sure if it was installed Via an RPM or a source tarball. Dovecot is use MySQL. This is a RHEL5 server. There are RPMs listed as installed (rpm -qa) but I don't know how I can tell what was used to install the currently used set up. (also asking on the Postifix list) Is there something in a conf file or something that shows me how it was installed? Thanks Blake

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[Dovecot] Stateful Webmail
by Michael Carter 20 Aug '08

20 Aug '08

Hello, I'm a developer on the Orbited project (http://www.orbited.org) which provides a TCPSocket interface in javascript (emulated over HTTP using ajax and comet.) This TCPSocket allows true bi-directional communication between a web browser and an arbitrary tcp server. One of the other developers pointed me to a recent dovecot thread about webmail. Sorry for the new thread (I just joined this list and couldn't reply to the old emails). Timo Sirainen wrote Wed Aug 13 23:37:11 EEST 2008: > I wrote this a while ago: http://imapwiki.org/ClientImplementation > > One thing that would be nice, that pretty much no webmail does, is to > keep a stateful connection open all the time (or at least some of the > time) instead of creating tons of short-lived connections that ask the > same stuff over and over again. With a stateful connection you could > basically run IDLE and wait for changes there instead of asking all > the time "is there new mail?" "is there new mail now?" "what about > now?". Coincidentally, we have just began work on a JavaScript IMAP client. With it, building a webmail app should be *entirely* a UI concern. The good news is that our Socket interface is very stable and is being used in production for protocols like IRC for webchat. The bad news is that none of the the Orbited developers have experience with the IMAP protocol. We are putting all of our protocol implementations in the soon-to-launch js.io project (www.js.io) As soon as we have any kind of IMAP client prototype, I'll let you know. In the meantime, would anyone be interesting in helping us develop the imap client? Its 100% pure JavaScript, and will greatly ease the development of feature-rich webmail, as a webmail deployment will become a matter of simply running Dovecot, the js.io.imap client, and an HTML gui. -Michael Carter

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