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[Dovecot] Dovecot+Postfix+Maildir with ActiveDirectory userbase
by Luigi Rosa 13 Feb '10

13 Feb '10

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi, has anyone implemented a mail server with maildir, Postfix and Dovecot using Active Directory ad userbase and password authentication? Do I need Samba to authenticate users? Can I use credential caching just like mysql? Ciao, luigi - -- / +--[Luigi Rosa]-- \ This morning at breakfast, I noticed that Kellogg's have put a helpline number on their cornflake packets. When you need a helpline for breakfast cereals, it's time to start thinking about tearing down civilisation and giving the ants a go. --Chris King -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkt2wGAACgkQ3kWu7Tfl6ZR3qQCgv7+smY1v1YY3OAK+A2lH/adr JtIAoIU+yd9zecP+iKoSxOAyaZJLnRfR =KnFa -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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[Dovecot] scalability
by Jonathan Tripathy 13 Feb '10

13 Feb '10

Hi Folks, How scalable is dovecot. Do you think a machine with a dual core 2.8Ghz processor and 2GB of RAM would do a business with 600 users? This server will have a 100Mbps link to the net, however it will be access by the business using a couple of ADSL lines (Roughly 7Mbps each). This machine will also be running Postfix Your help is appreciated Cheers Jonny

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[Dovecot] problem with deliver segfaulting
by Leonardo Rodrigues 13 Feb '10

13 Feb '10

i'm facing a pretty hard to debug problem when trying to use dovecot LDA (deliver) from postfix. After having all configured, mail deliver fails. This is from my maillog: Feb 12 21:27:54 correio postfix/pipe[12484]: 930F9F6105: to=<solutti(a)domain.com.br>, relay=dovecot, delay=0.21, delays=0.03/0.01/0/0.18, dsn=4.3.0, status=SOFTBOUNCE (Command died with signal 11: "/usr/libexec/dovecot/deliver") at the same time, i have from my /var/log/messages: Feb 12 21:27:54 correio kernel: deliver[12485]: segfault at 0 ip 4c1be763 sp bff64c28 error 4 in libc-2.5.so[4c193000+13f000] so, seems deliver segfaults. so i tried enabling mail_debug=yes on dovecot.conf for getting some debug ..... and, with mail_debug enabled, deliver WORKS !!!! Feb 12 21:28:41 correio postfix/pipe[12748]: 1A969F6105: to=<solutti(a)domain.com.br>, relay=dovecot, delay=0.28, delays=0.03/0.01/0/0.24, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (delivered via dovecot service) disabling mail_debug makes the segfault happens again .... and reenabling mail_debug make it works again ! how can i debug this !?!?!? -- Atenciosamente / Sincerily, Leonardo Rodrigues Solutti Tecnologia http://www.solutti.com.br Minha armadilha de SPAM, NÃO mandem email gertrudes(a)solutti.com.br My SPAMTRAP, do not email it

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[Dovecot] REPOST: mbox vs maildir
by Ashley M. Kirchner 12 Feb '10

12 Feb '10

Ignoring my previous message just for a second, I realized that my config wasn't correct. First the layout: ~mail/ ~mail/Drafts ~mail/Ashley-Feb09 ~mail/Others-Feb09 ~mail-Archives/ ~mail-Archives/2009/ ~mail-Archives/2009/Ashley/ ~mail-Archives/2009/Ashley/Ashley-Dec09 ~mail-Archives/2009/Ashley/Ashley-Nov09 ~mail-Archives/2009/Ashley/Ashley-Oct09 So I (now) have this for namespaces: namespace private { separator = / prefix = "mail/" location = mbox:~/mail:INBOX=/var/mail/%u inbox = yes hidden = no list = yes # for v1.1+ } namespace private { separator = / prefix = "mail-Archives/" location = maildir:~/mail-Archives:LAYOUT=fs inbox = no hidden = no list = yes subscriptions = yes } But when I'm in Thunderbird and I try to subscribe to anything that falls inside of ~/mail-Archives/ it won't work. I can browser all the way down to the folder, but I can't see anything within that folder. For example, consider the full path to the following 'Ashley-Dec09' mailbox: ~mail-Archives/2009/Ashley/Ashley-Dec09 In Thunderbird, when I hit 'Subscribe' I can browse down to '2009' and I can see 'Ashley', but I can't drill down into it and subscribe to 'Ashley-Jan09'. What am I missing here?

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[Dovecot] dovecot v1.2.10 + unknown mail_uid parameter [RESOLVED]
by maximatt 12 Feb '10

12 Feb '10

hi.. i can resolve them setting de following parameters: in dovecot.conf: - coment mail_uid and mail_gid parameters: #mail_uid= 72940 #mail_gid= 72941 in dovecot-ldap.conf: - add the foollowing parameters in "user_attrs": user_attrs= .....,=uid=72940,gid=72941 thanks! -- Salu2 ;)

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[Dovecot] sieve vacation
by Lampa 12 Feb '10

12 Feb '10

Hello, scenario: OK 1. created vacation script (see below) OK 2. send message from user(a)anotherdomain.tld to user(a)domain.tld => got auto vacation response (2010-02-11T19:42:13) OK 3. send message from user(a)anotherdomain.tld to user(a)domain.tld => no response (is ok because ":days 1" settings) (2010-02-11T19:47:46) BAD 4. send message from anotheruser(a)anotherdomain.tld to user(a)domain.tld => no response (2010-02-11T19:48:04) Why is discarding vacation response for message implicitly delivered to <user(a)domain.tld> ? log: 2010-02-11T19:42:13.669321+01:00 hermes dovecot: deliver(user(a)domain.tld): sieve: msgid=<052a01caab49$ec4752e0$c4d5f8a0$@tld>: sent vacation response to <user(a)anotherdomain.tld> 2010-02-11T19:42:13.732541+01:00 hermes dovecot: deliver(user(a)domain.tld): sieve: msgid=<052a01caab49$ec4752e0$c4d5f8a0$@tld>: stored mail into mailbox 'INBOX' 2010-02-11T19:47:46.271534+01:00 hermes dovecot: deliver(user(a)domain.tld): sieve: msgid=<053201caab4a$b295ece0$17c1c6a0$@tld>: discarded duplicate vacation response to <user(a)anotherdomain.tld> 2010-02-11T19:47:46.275891+01:00 hermes dovecot: deliver(user(a)domain.tld): sieve: msgid=<053201caab4a$b295ece0$17c1c6a0$@tld>: stored mail into mailbox 'INBOX' 2010-02-11T19:48:04.958622+01:00 hermes dovecot: deliver(user(a)domain.tld): sieve: msgid=<053701caab4a$bda90220$38fb0660$@tld>: discarding vacation response for message implicitly delivered to <user(a)domain.tld> 2010-02-11T19:48:04.965875+01:00 hermes dovecot: deliver(user(a)domain.tld): sieve: msgid=<053701caab4a$bda90220$38fb0660$@tld>: stored mail into mailbox 'INBOX' vacation script: ----------- require "vacation"; vacation :days 1 :subject "Auto reply" "auto reply message"; -------------- Thank you -- Lampa

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Re: [Dovecot] Dovecot and duplicates
by Veikko "Wexi" Skurnik 11 Feb '10

11 Feb '10

On 10.2.2010 1:54, Gabriel Millerd wrote: > > > On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 5:14 AM, Veikko "Wexi" Skurnik <wexi(a)wexin.net > <mailto:wexi@wexin.net>> wrote: > > > I'm having a problem setting up duplicate filtering on my mail > server. I've set up the mail server with Postfix and Dovecot with > virtual LDAP users, ClamAV virus scanning. The problem is that > some of the virtual users use multiple e-mail addresses and > postfix delivers emails sent to a user as many times as the user > has email address entries in LDAP. I was wondering what would be > the smartest way to get rid of these duplicates, they have > identical message ID:s and a simple procmail recipe does the > trick, however as I'm using dovecots deliver, procmail isn't the > answer. Is it possible to use Sieve to do this, I've been > googling around *a lot* and haven't found anything that would > solve the problem... > > > i would assume that there is a postfix mechanism for consolidating > these once it has normalized / expanded the rcpts for the message. > > > -- > Gabriel Millerd I've been trying to figure this out and no luck... I still think that one possibility could be a Sieve script that would discard messages based on a message-ID cache like the procmail recipe does. Does dovecot's deliver have some sort of message-ID cache that could be used to removed the duplicates? Or if anyone has any ideas how to do this, I'm open to suggestions =) Wexi -- * Veikko "Wexi" Skurnik: +358(44)5288338 * * wexi(a)wexin.net Wexi@IRCNet * * Näyttämönkatu 4 B 12 33720 Tampere * * "Kosminen balanssi ei saa järkkyä" *

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[Dovecot] Dovecot + managesieve + Roundcube
by Frank Bonnet 11 Feb '10

11 Feb '10

Hello I've installed managesieve on my mailhub FreeBSD from dovecot-managesieve ports to let roundcube users build email filters. The filter are well created in the right directory but the filter seems inefficient ( it does not filter ;-) ) see below the result of the dovecot -n command Thanks for any info > mail# dovecot -n > # 1.2.10: /usr/local/etc/dovecot.conf > # OS: FreeBSD 7.2-RELEASE amd64 > log_path: /var/log/dovecot/dovecot.log > info_log_path: /var/log/dovecot/info.log > protocols: imap imaps pop3 pop3s managesieve > listen(default): * > listen(imap): * > listen(pop3): * > listen(managesieve): localhost:2000 > disable_plaintext_auth: no > login_dir: /var/run/dovecot/login > login_executable(default): /usr/local/libexec/dovecot/imap-login > login_executable(imap): /usr/local/libexec/dovecot/imap-login > login_executable(pop3): /usr/local/libexec/dovecot/pop3-login > login_executable(managesieve): /usr/local/libexec/dovecot/managesieve-login > login_processes_count: 10 > login_max_processes_count: 256 > login_max_connections: 1024 > max_mail_processes: 4096 > verbose_proctitle: yes > mail_privileged_group: mail > mail_location: mbox:%h/:INBOX=/var/mail/%u > mail_executable(default): /usr/local/libexec/dovecot/imap > mail_executable(imap): /usr/local/libexec/dovecot/imap > mail_executable(pop3): /usr/local/libexec/dovecot/pop3 > mail_executable(managesieve): /usr/local/libexec/dovecot/managesieve > mail_plugin_dir(default): /usr/local/lib/dovecot/imap > mail_plugin_dir(imap): /usr/local/lib/dovecot/imap > mail_plugin_dir(pop3): /usr/local/lib/dovecot/pop3 > mail_plugin_dir(managesieve): /usr/local/lib/dovecot/managesieve > imap_client_workarounds(default): outlook-idle tb-extra-mailbox-sep > imap_client_workarounds(imap): outlook-idle tb-extra-mailbox-sep > imap_client_workarounds(pop3): > imap_client_workarounds(managesieve): > pop3_uidl_format(default): %08Xu%08Xv > pop3_uidl_format(imap): %08Xu%08Xv > pop3_uidl_format(pop3): %08Xv%08Xu > pop3_uidl_format(managesieve): %08Xu%08Xv > managesieve_logout_format(default): bytes=%i/%o > managesieve_logout_format(imap): bytes=%i/%o > managesieve_logout_format(pop3): bytes=%i/%o > managesieve_logout_format(managesieve): bytes ( in=%i : out=%o ) > lda: > postmaster_address: postmaster(a)esiee.fr > auth default: > verbose: yes > worker_max_count: 50 > passdb: > driver: passwd > userdb: > driver: passwd > plugin: > sieve: ~/.dovecot.sieve > sieve_dir: ~/sieve

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[Dovecot] apache2 mod_authn_dovecot
by Boris Manojlovic 11 Feb '10

11 Feb '10

Dear All, I have created apache2 module that allows web users to authenticate against dovecot auth daemon. It connect to dovecot authentication client socket. Currently implemented mechanism is plaintext PLAIN. Currently there are no plans to support any other as only thing that i have created in apache module is "Basic" auth. Source code can be downloaded from; http://github.com/bmanojlovic/mod_authn_dovecot or tagged version v0.1 from: http://github.com/bmanojlovic/mod_authn_dovecot/tarball/v0.1 Currently built RPMS can be downloaded from OpenSUSE build service URL: http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/bmanojlovic/<Distribution of choice> Please comment or raise issues if you think it is useful or full of bugs :). Boris Manojlovic P.S. Very basic README - HOW TO is on this URL http://github.com/bmanojlovic/mod_authn_dovecot/blob/master/README

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[Dovecot] upgrade 1.0.15-2.3+lenny1 to 1.2.9-1~bpo50+1
by Stan Hoeppner 11 Feb '10

11 Feb '10

System: Debian 5.0.4 Lenny Kernel: custom 2.6.31.1 built from kernel.org source Dovecot: 1.0.15-2.3+lenny1 Available: 1.2.9-1~bpo50+1 Mailbox format: mbox Storage location: /home/$user/mail/ on ext2 fs Delivery: Postfix 2.5.5 local to /var/mail/$user As you can see Debian has a backport package of Dovecot 1.2.9 available to Lenny users, and it appears it is a big jump forward in terms of elapsed time and codebase. Debian ships Dovecot in a collection of 6 packages. I currently only use two, dovecot-common and dovecot-imapd. I'm guessing it would probably be wise to shutdown all my current Dovecot processes before starting the upgrade. Before I do this upgrade I figured I'd ask first to see if there are any gotchas or explosions awaiting me. Any warnings, hints, pointers anyone? Timo? Thanks. -- Stan

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[Dovecot] fts squat -> webmail, fastcgi timeout: SOLR the answer?
by mailinglists＠belfin.ch 10 Feb '10

10 Feb '10

Hi I turned on fts squat to speed up full text searches over webmail. This works absolutely fantastic once the mailboxes are indexed. But when they are indexed for the first time I'm getting a fastcgi timeout after 30 seconds resulting into a internal server error on the webserver. In the background the indexing job is getting finished after 80 seconds for a 25k emails, ~300MB mailbox. Does solr allow user-offline indexing (no user interaction needed to kick on indexing) ? And the other question is, is there any mail user agent that would support server-side full text indexing and not create own indexes? Thanks, Philipp

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[Dovecot] Purging a large folder... anything I need to be careful of?
by Dave 10 Feb '10

10 Feb '10

I've got a large message folder (about 40G in 'cur') that I need to empty to a more reasonable size. Oddly, my Thunderbird e-mail client only sees about 2.4G of that, and has "looped" a few times. What I mean is, I thought someone was cleaning the folder out, but Thunderbird apparently was actually just looping back to 0 every 4 gigs and starting to count up again Ha. But that's a sidenote. So, since Thunderbird apparently is not seeing all of the messages, what is the safest way to delete the files straight from the 'cur' folder? IS that safe? Will I mess up any of the dovecot indexes in any way?? Dave

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[Dovecot] mbox vs maildir
by Ashley M. Kirchner 10 Feb '10

10 Feb '10

Ignoring my previous message just for a second, I realized that my config wasn't correct. So I have this for namespaces: namespace private { separator = / prefix = "mail/" location = mbox:~/mail:INBOX=/var/mail/%u inbox = yes hidden = no list = yes # for v1.1+ } namespace private { separator = / prefix = "mail-Archives/" location = maildir:~/mail-Archives:LAYOUT=fs inbox = no hidden = no list = yes subscriptions = yes } But when I'm in Thunderbird and I try to subscribe to anything that falls inside of ~/mail-Archives/ it won't work. I can browser all the way down to the folder, but I can't see anything within that folder. For example, consider the full path to the following 'Ashley-09' mailbox: ~/mail-Archives/2009/Ashley/Ashley-Jan09 In Thunderbird, when I hit 'Subscribe' I can browse down to '2009' and I can see 'Ashley', but I can't drill down into it and subscribe to 'Ashley-Jan09'. What am I missing here?

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[Dovecot] Folders within folders ...
by Ashley M. Kirchner 10 Feb '10

10 Feb '10

Our mail setup is as follows: ~/mail/ - This contains single mailboxes (Drafts, Trash, and others) ~/mail-Archives/ - This contains a hierarchy of folders containing mailboxes For example, a tree of ~/mail/ would look like this: ~/mail/ ~/mail/Trash ~/mail/Drafts ~/mail/sent-mail ~/mail/My Stuff ~/mail/Important ~/mail/test/SomeFolder <-- this would never happen, but I have to account for it during our transition A tree of ~/mail-Archives/ would look like this: ~mail-Archives/2009/MyStuff/MyStuff-Dec09 ~mail-Archives/2009/MyStuff/MyStuff-Nov09 ~mail-Archives/2009/MyStuff/MyStuff-Oct09 ~mail-Archives/2010/MyStuff/MyStuff-Jan10 ~mail-Archives/2010/Important/Important-Jan10 All of that works, I can open up Thunderbird and browser/read/delete messages no problem. However, when I try to move that 'test' folder from ~/mail/ into ~/mail-Archives I get an error message: 'Can't rename mailbox to another storage type.' The same thing happens if I try to move any of the mailboxes in ~/mail/ to ~/mail-Archives/ . Is there a way to fix that? Our namespaces look like this: namespace private { separator = / prefix = "mail/" location = mbox:~/mail:INBOX=/var/mail/%u inbox = yes hidden = no list = yes # for v1.1+ } namespace private { separator = / prefix = "mail-Archives/" location = mbox:~/mail-Archives inbox = no hidden = no list = yes subscriptions = yes }

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Re: [Dovecot] dovecot and AFS SOLVED
by Per-Erik Persson 10 Feb '10

10 Feb '10

Sorry for the fuzz on the thread earlier. I now have dovecots deliver (1.1.?)up and running and delivering mails to maildirs located on the AFS So if anyone is wondering, I would say that AFS works as a backend for storing emails without any ugly patches.

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[Dovecot] Dovecot and duplicates
by Veikko "Wexi" Skurnik 10 Feb '10

10 Feb '10

Hi I'm having a problem setting up duplicate filtering on my mail server. I've set up the mail server with Postfix and Dovecot with virtual LDAP users, ClamAV virus scanning. The problem is that some of the virtual users use multiple e-mail addresses and postfix delivers emails sent to a user as many times as the user has email address entries in LDAP. I was wondering what would be the smartest way to get rid of these duplicates, they have identical message ID:s and a simple procmail recipe does the trick, however as I'm using dovecots deliver, procmail isn't the answer. Is it possible to use Sieve to do this, I've been googling around *a lot* and haven't found anything that would solve the problem... This is the procmail recipe that succesfully eliminates the duplicates: MAILDIR=/var/vmail :0 Wh: msgid.lock | formail -D 8192 .msgid.cache Or could another solution be to configure postfix to first receive the email, then let procmail do the duplicate filtering, then ClamAV does the virus scan and finally dovecots deliver delivers the message to the virtual user's mailbox? Any help will be greatly appreciated =) Wexi -- * Veikko "Wexi" Skurnik: +358(44)5288338 * * wexi(a)wexin.net Wexi@IRCNet * * Näyttämönkatu 4 B 12 33720 Tampere * * "Kosminen balanssi ei saa järkkyä" *

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[Dovecot] Understanding migrateuser.sh
by Stewart Dean 09 Feb '10

09 Feb '10

I'm sure it comes from my being a gormless idiot, but whatever is the -UKWS argument immediately after the mb2md.pl invocation? > $MB2MD -UKWS -s "$INBOX" -d "$WORKING" As always, reading the idiom of someone else's scripting is an education. And some of it wouldn't work with native AIX sh/ksh, so changed the functions: > folders_hash() { > local HASH=`find $FOLDERS -type f |sort|(IFS=\ > ;while read file; do ls -l "\$file"; done)` > eval "$1=\"$HASH\"" > } > to: > folders_hash() { > local IFS=\ > local HASH=`find $FOLDERS -type f | sort | \ > while read file > do > ls -l "\$file" > done` > # the escapes are so that $1 gets "$HASH" NOT $HASH > # So the resolution is deferred... > eval "$1=\"$HASH\"" > } I would have wished for a few more comments within the script. -- ==== Once upon a time, the Internet was a friendly, neighbors-helping-neighbors small town, and no one locked their doors. Now it's like an apartment in Bed-Stuy: you need three heavy duty pick-proof locks, one of those braces that goes from the lock to the floor, and bars on the windows.... ==== Stewart Dean, Unix System Admin, Bard College, New York 12504 sdean(a)bard.edu voice: 845-758-7475, fax: 845-758-7035

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[Dovecot] check password on behalf of user
by Nikolay Shopik 09 Feb '10

09 Feb '10

I'm running KDC with all users and passwords, but have to manage clients who doesn't support GSSAPI like mobile phones. Is it possible to dovecot SASL check password in KDC when user sends plain text login? I know this is possible to do with saslauthd from Cyrus but prefer to stick with dovecot SASL.

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[Dovecot] Converting layouts
by Luciano Mannucci 09 Feb '10

09 Feb '10

Hello, I'm using dovecot 1.2.10 with mbox format (which implies layout=fs) and I would like to switch to maildir++ layout without changing format in order to implement subfolders for IMAP users. I understand that I should move the INDEX location to avoid some namespace conflict (it would be a good idea anyway: I'll move them on another disc :). Now I have mail_location = mbox:/var/spool/mailboxes/%u:INBOX=/var/spool/mail/%u in my /etc/dovecot.conf. I think it should become somethink like mail_location=mbox:/var/spool/mailboxes/%u:LAYOUT=Maildir++:INBOX=/var/spool/mail/%u:INDEX=/var/dovecot_indexes I'll have to rename folders for IMAP users, right? Is there some script that does just that? Some other needed black magic for .subscriptions? Thanks to all in advance, Luciano. -- /"\ /Via A. Salaino, 7 - 20144 Milano (Italy) \ / ASCII RIBBON CAMPAIGN / PHONE : +39 2 485781 FAX: +39 2 48578250 X AGAINST HTML MAIL / E-MAIL: posthamster(a)sublink.sublink.ORG / \ AND POSTINGS / WWW: http://www.mannucci.ORG/

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[Dovecot] Get plugins configuration
by Alex Baule 09 Feb '10

09 Feb '10

Hello everyone.... There is a way to get configurations in dovecot.conf inside a plugin ?

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[Dovecot] Messages marked as unread - Dovecot 1.2.10 - Thunderbird 2.0.0.23
by Thorsten Habich 09 Feb '10

09 Feb '10

Hi! I upgraded some of our systems to dovecot 1.2.10 now I noticed that some of my messages are marked as unread. This disappears after reopening the folder again. Greetings, Thorsten

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[Dovecot] Problem with created ~/mail directory
by Chris Adams 08 Feb '10

08 Feb '10

If a user doesn't have a ~/mail directory and logs in, the directory is created for them. However, it is created with insecure permissions, 0770 (full group access). The problem is this bit in src/lib-storage/index/mbox/mbox-storage.c: #define CREATE_MODE 0770 /* umask() should limit it more */ The code then uses CREATE_MODE as an argument to mkdir_parents(), but mkdir_parents() overrides the umask setting and forces the requested permissions. There's no way to override this except to change the source code. It looks like the same thing is in dbox-storage.c and cydir-storage.c. This is with Dovecot 1.2.10. -- Chris Adams <cmadams(a)hiwaay.net> Systems and Network Administrator - HiWAAY Internet Services I don't speak for anybody but myself - that's enough trouble.

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[Dovecot] Plugin question
by Valery Gorbunov 08 Feb '10

08 Feb '10

Hi All. I am developing plugin for Dovecot. And I needs for read some configuration file at startup and store configuration in application wide variable. As I see the plugin_init() method calls multiple times and allocates plugin's variables each time. Could you suggest better way to store variable in application context. Thank you Valery Gorbunov

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[Dovecot] Problems with thunderbird 3 ( messages mark unread after being read )
by Frank Bonnet 08 Feb '10

08 Feb '10

Hello Since we upgrade all our users's PC with Thunderbird 3(.0.1) many of them have a problem with email that move back to unread status even after they have read them. The problem does not occured with Thunderbird 2 Is this problem Dovecot related ? Do you have the same trouble ? Thank you

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[Dovecot] Next message unexpectedly corrupted in mbox file
by Justin Piszcz 08 Feb '10

08 Feb '10

Hi, I am seeing this on one of my servers: Jan 8 10:08:58 l1 dovecot: IMuser(user): Next message unexpectedly corrupted in mbox file /home/user/Mailbox at 10558 I have never seen this before, and google yields no results except when this warning was added to the source code here: http://www.dovecot.org/list/dovecot-cvs/2009-December/015177.html The user has deleted all of the mail in the Mailbox but the problem persists. Any ideas? Justin.

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