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[Dovecot] Sent Date/time vs Received Date/time
by Charles Marcus 21 Aug '08

21 Aug '08

On 8/20/2008, Nicolas KOWALSKI (nicolas.kowalski(a)gmail.com) wrote: > The alpine documentation states about 'Arrival' sorting: > > " The Arrival sort option arranges messages in the MESSAGE INDEX in > the order that they exist in the folder. This is usually the same as > the order in which they arrived. This option is comparable to not > sorting the messages at all. " > > It is the same (non-)ordering available in Mozilla mail clients, with > the 'Order Received' option. Ok, this is something that I have thought about from time to time. I know that every message has a 'received' header, which is basically the date/time stamp of the SENDERS CLIENT - so if their system's time is off, that date/time header will be off. So, where does this 'Order Received' column in TBird get its info from? I'm guessing it is a TBird thing, like an internal index number? In my mind, there should be two primary date/time columns: Sent Date/Time = Date/time of the Client system when message was sent (this is already there as the plain 'Date' column) and Received Date/Time = Date/time the receiving SERVER DELIVERED it I can see the benefit for the third 'Client' side Date/time stamp, which is the current 'Order Received' in TBird. I'd like to see support added for grabbing the last date/time from the LDA that delivers the message, but that obviously request is for the TBird devs (or most likely an extension request), but... The main question is - is there a proper IMAP/RFC for providing/getting this date/time? -- Best regards, Charles

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Re: [Dovecot] Dovecot & (Al)pine - resaving messages to Inbox
by Jonathan Herbach 21 Aug '08

21 Aug '08

> I suppose the OP does not sort by date but Arrival time (this means arrival time in the mailbox). Exactly. I sort by arrival time, which in practice is the "unsorted" ordering based upon the mbox file itself. (Except I'd like to control the arbitrary "unsorted" order that I want by "resave to inbox" to handle reordering.) Nicolas wrote: > - a quick grep shows this is 'normal' behaviour, as written in > src/lib-storage/index/mbox/mbox-save.c > > if (mbox->mbox_lock_type == F_RDLCK) { > /* FIXME: we shouldn't fail here. it's just > a locking issue that should be possible to > fix.. */ > mail_storage_set_error(storage, > MAIL_ERROR_NOTPOSSIBLE, > "Can't copy mails inside same mailbox"); > return -1; > } So I'm currently using: mbox_write_locks: fcntl When I was using version 9 the relevant config setting was: "mbox_locks = fcntl", which plus the config suggestion "fcntl: Use this if possible" led me down this path. Does anybody know why this code was designed this way / why it is different from 0.99 behavior / etc? Jonathan _________________________________________________________________ Get thousands of games on your PC, your mobile phone, and the web with Windows®. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/108588800/direct/01/

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[Dovecot] Dovecot & (Al)pine - resaving messages to Inbox
by Jonathan Herbach 21 Aug '08

21 Aug '08

I have a x86 Linux box running Fedora 4. Up until 2008 I was using pine 4.64 and Dovecot 0.99.x. In early 2008 I transitioned to Alpine 1.10, and didn't notice any major changes. I upgraded to Dovecot 1.0.15 this past weekend. My dovecot -n settings are at the bottom of the email. I've noticed a change since Dovecot was upgraded. I used to reorder items within my INBOX in al/pine by "saving" messages back to the INBOX, which I was connecting via IMAP . Now when I try to do it I get an error in alpine that says: [Can't copy mails inside same folder] then: [Save to folder "{localhost:143/i...r=jherbach}INBOX" FAILED] While these are alpine messages, they appear to be from the dovecot upgrade. I really miss the ability to reorder messages in my inbox since I often use it as a queue of important items. Does anybody have any ideas why I'm seeing this error message? Or better yet, how to potentially (re) configure the system to allow me to resave messages into the same folder? Jonathan --------------- My settings: # 1.0.15: /usr/local/etc/dovecot.conf protocols: imap pop3 imaps pop3s ssl_cert_file: /etc/pki/dovecot/dovecot.pem ssl_key_file: /etc/pki/dovecot/private/dovecot.pem disable_plaintext_auth: no login_dir: /var/run/dovecot-login login_executable(default): /usr/local/libexec/dovecot/imap-login login_executable(imap): /usr/local/libexec/dovecot/imap-login login_executable(pop3): /usr/local/libexec/dovecot/pop3-login first_valid_gid: 100 last_valid_gid: 100 mail_location: mbox:%h/mail:INBOX=%h/Mailbox mbox_write_locks: fcntl mail_executable(default): /usr/local/libexec/dovecot/imap mail_executable(imap): /usr/local/libexec/dovecot/imap mail_executable(pop3): /usr/local/libexec/dovecot/pop3 mail_plugin_dir(default): /usr/local/lib/dovecot/imap mail_plugin_dir(imap): /usr/local/lib/dovecot/imap mail_plugin_dir(pop3): /usr/local/lib/dovecot/pop3 pop3_no_flag_updates(default): no pop3_no_flag_updates(imap): no pop3_no_flag_updates(pop3): yes pop3_uidl_format(default): pop3_uidl_format(imap): pop3_uidl_format(pop3): %08Xu%08X pop3_client_workarounds(default): pop3_client_workarounds(imap): pop3_client_workarounds(pop3): outlook-no-nuls auth default: passdb: driver: pam userdb: driver: passwd _________________________________________________________________ Get ideas on sharing photos from people like you. Find new ways to share. http://www.windowslive.com/explore/photogallery/posts?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Pho…

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[Dovecot] config file parsing, tab characters
by John Hannfield 21 Aug '08

21 Aug '08

Hello, I am using the latest dovecot 1.1.2 with postfix, and using doveco deliver command for LDA. I really love dovecot, and how it has progressed over the years. However I have noticed that if I put a TAB character in the dovecot.conf file, it sometimes does not parse the file correctlty, and complains about missing postmaster_address etc, even though they are there. So I reformated my config file, with just spaces, no tabs. I am very careful about that now. However I still seem to have a problem in some places with spaces. For example, in the LDA section: If I have 3 or 4 spaces, after the lda line in the definition, like so: #----------------------------------------------------------------------------- # LDA Settings #----------------------------------------------------------------------------- protocol lda { postmaster_address = postmaster(a)mydomain.com hostname = mydomain.com .... it does not work. I must have only 1 space between the end of lda and the curly bracket. Like this: #----------------------------------------------------------------------------- # LDA Settings #----------------------------------------------------------------------------- protocol lda { postmaster_address = postmaster(a)mydomain.com hostname = mydomain.com .... This seems very flaky. I am not certain I will always be able to check the file when making changes. So my question is: 1. Is there someway to check the validity of the dovecot.conf file. I notice dovecot -n does not print the entire config. 2. Is there any chance the code used to parse the config file, could be updated to be more robust, and to include support for tabs? Thank you. Paul

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[Dovecot] How Can I Tell How Dovecot Was Installed?
by Blake Carver 21 Aug '08

21 Aug '08

I'm trying to help someone with Dovecot, and it looks like this one is a few versions behind. They say that they're not sure if it was installed Via an RPM or a source tarball. Dovecot is use MySQL. This is a RHEL5 server. There are RPMs listed as installed (rpm -qa) but I don't know how I can tell what was used to install the currently used set up. (also asking on the Postifix list) Is there something in a conf file or something that shows me how it was installed? Thanks Blake

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[Dovecot] Stateful Webmail
by Michael Carter 20 Aug '08

20 Aug '08

Hello, I'm a developer on the Orbited project (http://www.orbited.org) which provides a TCPSocket interface in javascript (emulated over HTTP using ajax and comet.) This TCPSocket allows true bi-directional communication between a web browser and an arbitrary tcp server. One of the other developers pointed me to a recent dovecot thread about webmail. Sorry for the new thread (I just joined this list and couldn't reply to the old emails). Timo Sirainen wrote Wed Aug 13 23:37:11 EEST 2008: > I wrote this a while ago: http://imapwiki.org/ClientImplementation > > One thing that would be nice, that pretty much no webmail does, is to > keep a stateful connection open all the time (or at least some of the > time) instead of creating tons of short-lived connections that ask the > same stuff over and over again. With a stateful connection you could > basically run IDLE and wait for changes there instead of asking all > the time "is there new mail?" "is there new mail now?" "what about > now?". Coincidentally, we have just began work on a JavaScript IMAP client. With it, building a webmail app should be *entirely* a UI concern. The good news is that our Socket interface is very stable and is being used in production for protocols like IRC for webchat. The bad news is that none of the the Orbited developers have experience with the IMAP protocol. We are putting all of our protocol implementations in the soon-to-launch js.io project (www.js.io) As soon as we have any kind of IMAP client prototype, I'll let you know. In the meantime, would anyone be interesting in helping us develop the imap client? Its 100% pure JavaScript, and will greatly ease the development of feature-rich webmail, as a webmail deployment will become a matter of simply running Dovecot, the js.io.imap client, and an HTML gui. -Michael Carter

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[Dovecot] assertion failed
by CJ Keist 20 Aug '08

20 Aug '08

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I just switched over to dovecot 1.1.2 on our live system last night. I'm seeing the following errors in the logs: Aug 19 10:01:03 goku dovecot: [ID 107833 mail.crit] Panic: IMAP(elevin): file in dex-sync.c: line 39 (index_mailbox_set_recent_uid): assertion failed: (seq_range _exists(&ibox->recent_flags, uid)) I did apply the assertion fix that Timo sent out. # 1.1.2: /userM/mail-services/dovecot/etc/dovecot.conf Warning: fd limit 256 is lower than what Dovecot can use under full load (more than 3072). Either grow the limit or change login_max_processes_count and max_mail_processes settings base_dir: /userM/mail-services/dovecot/var/run/dovecot/ protocols: imap imaps pop3 pop3s ssl_cert_file: /userM/mail-services/dovecot/etc/ssl/dovecot.pem ssl_key_file: /userM/mail-services/dovecot/etc/ssl/privkey.pem ssl_parameters_regenerate: 0 ssl_cipher_list: MEDIUM:!LOW disable_plaintext_auth: no login_dir: /userM/mail-services/dovecot/var/run/dovecot/login login_executable(default): /userM/mail-services/dovecot/libexec/dovecot/imap-login login_executable(imap): /userM/mail-services/dovecot/libexec/dovecot/imap-login login_executable(pop3): /userM/mail-services/dovecot/libexec/dovecot/pop3-login login_greeting: Cyrus ready. login_max_processes_count: 1024 max_mail_processes: 1024 mail_location: mbox:~/:INBOX=/userM/mail/%u mail_debug: yes mmap_disable: yes mail_nfs_index: yes mail_executable(default): /userM/mail-services/dovecot/libexec/dovecot/imap mail_executable(imap): /userM/mail-services/dovecot/libexec/dovecot/imap mail_executable(pop3): /userM/mail-services/dovecot/libexec/dovecot/pop3 mail_plugin_dir(default): /userM/mail-services/dovecot/lib/dovecot/imap mail_plugin_dir(imap): /userM/mail-services/dovecot/lib/dovecot/imap mail_plugin_dir(pop3): /userM/mail-services/dovecot/lib/dovecot/pop3 auth default: mechanisms: plain login verbose: yes debug: yes passdb: driver: pam passdb: driver: passwd args: blocking=yes userdb: driver: passwd args: blocking=yes socket: type: listen client: path: /var/lib/postfix/private/auth mode: 438 user: postfix group: postfix master: path: /userM/mail-services/dovecot/var/run/dovecot//auth-master mode: 384 - -- C. J. Keist Email: cj.keist(a)colostate.edu UNIX/Network Manager Phone: 970-491-0630 Engineering Network Services Fax: 970-491-5569 College of Engineering, CSU Ft. Collins, CO 80523-1301 All I want is a chance to prove 'Money can't buy happiness' -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFIqvAiA29OFr7C6jcRAlbPAJsHSPO0JvyUHGOBUJ1E8NhuT9tM5wCgnOZ2 NW9OeL6tSORhGleWSX63uPI= =mw7Z -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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[Dovecot] Dovecot 1.1.2, index-sync.c, line 39, assertion
by Andreas M. Kirchwitz 20 Aug '08

20 Aug '08

Hi folks, because I accidently missed a syslog entry from previous reports, here's a new one with both syslog lines. Same problem as always when saving mail from one folder to another with Pine 4.64. Does nobody else get this when copying/moving mail between folders? The assertion refers to src/lib-storage/index/index-sync.c, line 39 (function index_mailbox_set_recent_uid). Aug 19 23:01:15 linux dovecot: Panic: IMAP(user2): file index-sync.c: line 39 (index_mailbox_set_recent_uid): assertion failed: (seq_range_exists(&ibox->recent_flags, uid)) Aug 19 23:01:15 linux dovecot: IMAP(user2): Raw backtrace: imap [0x80cf8e0] -> imap [0x80cf93a] -> imap [0x80cf26c] -> imap [0x809d11a] -> imap(index_mailbox_set_recent_seq+0x3e) [0x809d15e] -> imap(mbox_sync+0x105d) [0x80823fd] -> imap [0x807a454] -> imap(index_transaction_commit+0x4e) [0x809ddfe] -> imap(cmd_copy+0x35f) [0x805b26f] -> imap [0x805fd7c] -> imap [0x805fe25] -> imap [0x80605e5] -> imap(client_input+0x5e) [0x80607fe] -> imap(io_loop_handler_run+0x100) [0x80d7230] -> imap(io_loop_run+0x28) [0x80d63c8] -> imap(main+0x4a1) [0x8068321] -> /lib/libc.so.6(__libc_start_main+0xe0) [0x149390] -> imap [0x805a101] Dovecot 1.1.2 is running on Fedora 8 Linux 32 Bit with all patches and custom OpenSSL 0.9.8h. [ output of "dovecot -n" ] # 1.1.2: /usr/local/dovecot/etc/dovecot.conf ssl_cert_file: /usr/local/dovecot/etc/dovecot.crt ssl_key_file: /usr/local/dovecot/etc/dovecot.key login_dir: /usr/local/dovecot/var/run/dovecot/login login_executable: /usr/local/dovecot/libexec/dovecot/imap-login mail_location: mbox:~/Mail:INBOX=/var/spool/mail/%u auth default: mechanisms: plain login digest-md5 cram-md5 passdb: driver: passwd-file args: /usr/local/dovecot/etc/dovecot.passwd userdb: driver: passwd-file args: /usr/local/dovecot/etc/dovecot.passwd It sometimes happens with Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 as well, but Pine 4.64 triggers this assertion very often. Greetings, Andreas

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[Dovecot] dovecot performance
by Giorgenes Gelatti 20 Aug '08

20 Aug '08

Hello All, I've been studying dovecot for replacing my company's current system and I got a little worried about an aspect of the dovecot's design. I was surprised that dovecot doesn't use prefork for its mail processes, forking a new processes for each new client connection. Talking in the #dovecot channel I was gave a scenario of a system supporting ~40k users with 4 servers just fine. I wonder how well dovecot would scale if we increase this number of users by some order of magnitude like, say, 4M users. It is well known that preforking is a good pratice if you want to achieve a higher performance. When I was asked about it I readily answered: "of course it does". For my surprise later, i doesn't. Do you have any plans to support preforking in the near future? Best regards, giorgenes

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[Dovecot] sendmail permissions denied
by CJ Keist 19 Aug '08

19 Aug '08

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Never mind On this, operator dumbness involved. Two directories above didn't allow general access into postfix home. - -------------------- With the sieve plugin trying to redirect or send vacation reply I'm getting the following error: Aug 19 13:12:52 goku deliver(joeblow): [ID 619685 mail.info] Module loaded: /use rM/mail-services/dovecot/lib/dovecot/lda/lib90_cmusieve_plugin.so Aug 19 13:12:52 goku deliver(joeblow): [ID 848615 mail.info] mbox: data=/top/students/UNGRAD/ES/joeblow/home/:INBOX=/userM/mail/joeblow Aug 19 13:12:52 goku deliver(joeblow): [ID 885103 mail.info] fs: root=/top/students/UNGRAD/ES/joeblow/home, index=, control=, inbox=/userM/mail/joeblow Aug 19 13:12:52 goku deliver(joeblow): [ID 223526 mail.info] cmusieve: Using sieve path: /top/students/UNGRAD/ES/joeblow/home/.dovecot.sieve Aug 19 13:12:52 goku deliver(joeblow): [ID 507699 mail.info] cmusieve: Executing script /top/students/UNGRAD/ES/joeblow/home/.dovecot.sievec Aug 19 13:12:52 goku deliver(joeblow): [ID 107833 mail.crit] Fatal: execv(/userM/mail-services/postfix/lib/sendmail) failed: Permission denied Aug 19 13:12:52 goku deliver(joeblow): [ID 260232 mail.error] Sendmail process terminated abnormally, exit status 75 Aug 19 13:12:52 goku deliver(joeblow): [ID 344163 mail.info] sieve runtime error: Vacation: Error sending mail Aug 19 13:12:52 goku deliver(joeblow): [ID 702911 mail.info] msgid=<48AB1B2E.4000007(a)colostate.edu>: saved mail to INBOX Aug 19 13:12:52 goku deliver(joeblow): [ID 368532 mail.error] sieve_execute_bytecode(/top/students/UNGRAD/ES/joeblow/home/.dovecot.sievec) failed Aug 19 13:12:52 goku postfix/local[10821]: [ID 197553 mail.info] EF96F2363C: to=<joeblow(a)engr.colostate.edu>, relay=local, delay=0.11, delays=0.02/0/0/0.09, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (delivered to command: /userM/mail-services/dovecot/libexec/dovecot/deliver) Aug 19 13:12:52 goku postfix/qmgr[24972]: [ID 197553 mail.info] EF96F2363C: removed The sendmail path /userM/mail-services/postfix/lib/sendmail is correct the the permissions sendmail is: - -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 602472 Aug 18 22:02 sendmail* I didn't have this problem with the test server. Any ideas? dovecot -n base_dir: /userM/mail-services/dovecot/var/run/dovecot/ protocols: imap imaps pop3 pop3s ssl_cert_file: /userM/mail-services/dovecot/etc/ssl/dovecot.pem ssl_key_file: /userM/mail-services/dovecot/etc/ssl/privkey.pem ssl_parameters_regenerate: 0 ssl_cipher_list: MEDIUM:!LOW disable_plaintext_auth: no login_dir: /userM/mail-services/dovecot/var/run/dovecot/login login_executable(default): /userM/mail-services/dovecot/libexec/dovecot/imap-log in login_executable(imap): /userM/mail-services/dovecot/libexec/dovecot/imap-login login_executable(pop3): /userM/mail-services/dovecot/libexec/dovecot/pop3-login login_greeting: Cyrus ready. login_max_processes_count: 1024 max_mail_processes: 1024 mail_location: mbox:~/:INBOX=/userM/mail/%u mail_debug: yes mmap_disable: yes mail_nfs_index: yes mail_executable(default): /userM/mail-services/dovecot/libexec/dovecot/imap mail_executable(imap): /userM/mail-services/dovecot/libexec/dovecot/imap mail_executable(pop3): /userM/mail-services/dovecot/libexec/dovecot/pop3 mail_plugin_dir(default): /userM/mail-services/dovecot/lib/dovecot/imap mail_plugin_dir(imap): /userM/mail-services/dovecot/lib/dovecot/imap mail_plugin_dir(pop3): /userM/mail-services/dovecot/lib/dovecot/pop3 auth default: mechanisms: plain login verbose: yes debug: yes passdb: driver: pam passdb: driver: passwd args: blocking=yes userdb: driver: passwd args: blocking=yes socket: type: listen client: path: /var/lib/postfix/private/auth mode: 432 user: postfix group: postfix - -- C. J. Keist Email: cj.keist(a)colostate.edu UNIX/Network Manager Phone: 970-491-0630 Engineering Network Services Fax: 970-491-5569 College of Engineering, CSU Ft. Collins, CO 80523-1301 All I want is a chance to prove 'Money can't buy happiness' -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFIqyjlA29OFr7C6jcRAv6GAJ90UCY/clZa43NBCysv0ktlg11cVQCeOnkq ylkleO56B91KU/4CuAGBACc= =s9YN -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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